JMM, MAB, Morales, Pac...rank who you think is the best fighter.

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  1. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    he fought EM who has never been KOed and MAB is heavily favored (4-1)
    never take away the credit from the man that is called the mexicutioner

    to add, JMM is nothing without MP
     
  2. maciek4

    maciek4 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If just by skill:

    JMM is the most skilled no doubt
    Barrera is better than Morales
    Morales
    Pac is least skilled but he has the most power of all and speed.

    Prime for prime I think they all win and lose to each other in wars.
     
  3. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Erik was comoing off a loss to the very average Zahir Raheem. An indication of just how removed Morales was from his best days.

    I'll give you that. Mab was still a very very good fighter when Pacquiao fought him, but he wasn't the same focused underdog he was against Morales and Naz.
     
  4. HyperBone

    HyperBone Silverback Gorilla Full Member

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    prime barrera prime morales...prime whoever... bull****....

    even jmm, barrera and morales has beaten several past prime fighters for god's sake... why dont you criticize them too?

    ah.. i know... cause pac's resume is just great most people would find some holes in it
     
  5. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    It's interesting. I don't hold Barrera's wins over Tapia or Kelley in high regard at all. They didn't improve his legacy whatsoever.

    Just as although wins over Barrera and Morales are impressive on paper, there is more to the story that only Pacquiao fans will choose to ignore.

    Pryor didn't beat "THE" Arguello, and Pacquiao didn't beat "THE" Morales and Barrera.
     
  6. HyperBone

    HyperBone Silverback Gorilla Full Member

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    damn your excuses are getting worse everyday...

    okay, morales lost against zahir raheem at lighweight.. and i admit morales is past prime.. but calling him shot just takes credit away from his greatness...

    lol, at one time you said barrera was in HIS prime when pac beat him, and then another excuse came up saying it was his off night due to forest fires, metal plate et. al.. what a joke... oh wait... you mean you are retracting your statement that barrera was prime when pac beat him right?
     
  7. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Nah, I always say that Pacquiao's first win over Barrera was a great win. I take nothing away from him, even if I do think Barrera started his decline at that point. Great win.

    Morales wasn't shot, I never said he was, but he was past his prime.
     
  8. Tedder

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    1. Pac
    2. MAB
    3. Morales
    4. JMM

    no doubt
     
  9. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Pac
    Morales
    MAB
    JMM

    Pac on top because of what he has achieved, not as schooled as the other 3 guys but he was winning titles from Flyweight through to BW based on natural gifts alone. On top of that he beat all 3, 2 in devastating fashion.

    Morales is second because he beat 2 of those guys in their prime, MAB & Pac. On top of that unlike MAB & JMM, in his prime he only ever lost to the best, MAB.

    MAB has a win over prime Morales and past his prime still managed to KD JMM and I thought it was a very close fight. Depending on which punches you liked better, you could have scored it for MAB. On top of that with JMM losses in his prime to guys like Norwood & John I couldnt really put him above any of the top 3. Sure Pac lost too when he was younger but as youve noticed, I only count losses in a fighters prime or near his prime, JMM had ATG trainer since he was 6, Pac had nothing, he was far from prime. He hit prime With Roach skillwise though declined a bit physically.
     
  10. kadyo

    kadyo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pac and JMM are still at the top of their games and can accomplish more. Maybe 10 years from now when all these great fighters are enjoying the fruits of their hard labor and all these hatred in this thread cooled down, people will have better perspectives.
     
  11. muzkabeatz

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  12. HyperBone

    HyperBone Silverback Gorilla Full Member

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    why dont we just rank them

    jmm > barrera > morales > pac === i mean equal footing right? jmm won against barrera who won against morales who won 1st time against pac who won against jmm...


    those 4 are great, all atgs/hofers
     
  13. retriever

    retriever Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pac
    Morales
    MAB-JMM
     
  14. marsb8888

    marsb8888 Member Full Member

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    all these talk about discounting pac's win over mab and morales because they are past their prime is bull****. We are talking about hof fighters here and they know how to prepare well in a big fight and to use their experience and their strengths to their advantage. we have so many examples of great athletes who still won even when they were not in their prime anymore. Like pete sampras winning his last major championship when he was clearly past his prime. john elway's championship win for denver. and even michael jordan's second threepeat with the bulls. These athletes elevated their abilities when the need arises. And its the same with great boxers.

    saying pac's win over mab and morales should be disregarded because they are past their prime is just plain stupid and malicious.
     
  15. rjamesd1

    rjamesd1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Haven't you figured that one out yet? Don't you watch? Read? PACQUIAO of course! The rest are honorable mention. :hat