JMM-Pac who won?

What I don't like is that its accepted that if its a close fight, that means either guy can get the decision.

I though JMM won it clearly.

One question I have is, did anyone give the twelfth round to Pac? (Other than one of the "judges")

 

I had it 115-114 for Pacquiao. But i had two rounds even, one of them probably should've gone to Marquez, making it a draw. JMM boxed beautiful in a lot of rounds, controlling Pac, but in the other rounds, Pac's aggression got through and in those rounds, he controlled the Mexican. That combined with the knockdown made for a dead even fight in my opinion. I think a draw is a good score.

 

I scored the fight for Marquez. I scored the round with the knock down 10-8 for Manny. I scored all other rounds 10-9.

I believe I had Marquez winning rounds 1,2,7,8,9,11,12 or maybe it was 6,7,8. I remember giving him 3 or 4 in a row.

I gave Pacquiao 3,4,5,6,10 or somewhere there about.

 

I will say the first round was close. There wasn't much to go on. I don't like even rounds, but I wouldn't hate someone for scoring round one as even.

I gave the first to Marquez, because I though he landed the only 2 significant punches in the round. A clean cross to the head, and a hard uppercut to the body at the end of the round.

 

Duane Ford needs to be summoned to face the Nevada State Comission over his scoring of the 12th round. Scoring that round for Pacquiao is beyond human belief. Marquez came forward, who cares if he didn't, the bottom line is that he threw more and landed more punches throughout the entire round. It wasn't even close. Sometimes you have two different scenarios. Example: One fighter landing jabs, while the other lands hooks and crosses, thus depends what you like. That wasn't even the case. Pacquiao was backed up by Marquez and outlanded.

The worse score possible, 114-113 Marquez. Thats 7 rounds to 5 with Marquez losing an extra point for knockdown. Personally I thought Marquez won the fight 115-112; 8 rounds to 4.

Marquez also won his rounds more convincingly than Pacquaio IMO.

 

I'll have to watch it this weekend if I can. Why pay $50.00 for something you can see for free on HBO the very next Saturday? A person whose opinion I respect greatly (Raging B()ll) had it for JMM by a point, but said it was quite close. Such a thing can hardly be called a robbery.

 

I am content, but only so long as the fighter dishing out the boxing lesson doesn't wobble every time he gets hit with a power punch :good

 

I've put my card and thoughts for the fight up in another classic section thread, so I'll just copy and paste it here.

I warn you though, you're not going to like it

 

It's sometimes not about how many rounds, but how convincingly the rounds are won. Sweet_scientist thinks it was a draw, and many others think it was a robbery. Don't forget that many people who watched the Chavez v Whitaker fight thought it was close. Whitaker was winning his rounds easily, while Chavez was edging his rounds. Some people seen Whitaker as 116-112 winner and others 115-113, some by a bigger margin. Their were some pretty close rounds, the first round and a couple of others. You score them for Chavez and you could come up with 7 rounds to 5 for Whitaker and say "well it could have been a draw".

And what exactly is a robbery?. Does it need to be 116-112 or more. What if it's that score but the rounds you scored for the winner were close. You change one round and it's a 2 point fight, thus getting into the territory of "It could have gone either way".

Sweet_scientist. Having the 12th round for Pacquiao or even is just as ridiculous as scoring the 5th round to Holyfield in the first Lewis fight. Maybe Lewis pounded Holyfield against the ropes, something Marquez never done, but it was just as obvious who won the round.

 

Robbi please.

Find me a credible source who scored Chavez the winner against Whitaker or even someone who scored it a draw or heck someone who thought it could have gone either way and then we'll talk.

As for the 12th round, you're making it out as if it was totally one sided. It wasn't. I thought Juan edged it but no one is going to convince me that he dominated it. He didn't.