JMM vs. Pac II: Respected columnist Dan Rafael's take

atsch



:rofl

 

The contract was already in place for Margarito-Cotto, but that didn't exactly pan out as expected in another close fight with a Bob Arum fighter where the judges came out against his man.

Most boxing judges make better money judging than they do with their day jobs. If there's even a legitimate IMPLICATION that a judge is on the take, that judge is never going to get to judge a boxing match again. In this day and age, I just find it hard to believe that a boxing judge would risk $60+ thousand of supplemental income to take money to fix a fight, especially when their bank accounts are tracked by NSAC to ensure that there's no ****** business going on.

 

So you guys are saying boxing is devoid of any funny-businessatsch

 

No, but I'm saying that the judges and refs aren't on the take in a Las Vegas fight. You can bank on that.

There are some shades of gray. Judges are hired by the promoters, and they do know who writes their paychecks. But for the most part, I don't think this influences the judging. What DOES happen is the promotional company will pick judges who tend to favor fighters of the type that the promoter is promoting. For instance, Duane Ford always has and always will favor strong punching over accurate punching. You can bet it was no accident that Arum chose him to be a judge for a Pacquiao match.

 

and how do you explain this.... how will you count rd 3 then :deal

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Never said the refs or judges were on the take.

BUt everything you posted afterwards is what I was talking about when I said that there are ways to stack things in a fighters favor.

Also, your second line basically agrees with what I said. These judges will for the most part try to remain impartiall but they are only human
and it's not a huge jump to say that they are at least sub-conciously
influenced!

 

I had him winning this fight by a point. How anyone can still say it could have gone either way boggles my mind. Paq was getting tagged so much in this fight. He hurt JMM with the KD and maybe like two other times. JMM was just a wiz sat night. He was robbed and Paq knew he lost the fight. It was close but JMM should have gotten rewarded for his performance.

 

The dude just fought 12 brutal rounds and beleives he won, I think Rafael is going overboard in his critisism here.

 

I absolutely agree with rafael on this one:good

It was close but Pac's power made the difference. No shame in either man's in ring performance, though no props to JMM afterwards:nono

 

Did we forget all the whinning the Pac camp did after the first fight!

Of course a fighter is not gonna be happy when he feels deep in his heart that he won the fight and the judges score it for the other guy!

 

Did Pac hint at some conspiracy or walked out of the presscon then???



Precisely!:yep

 

They did ***** and whine in their own little way:hi:

 

Difference is that Pac did actually win the fight, even the judge owned up to the mistake he made. This was not subjective.

 

That's where your card is wrong then. Marquez landed the only effective punch in round 1, and he also won round 11.

Anybody who had Pac winning needs to be hit with a brick.

 

Marquez is acting like a baby back *****. Take the loss like a man. Dan Rafael is correct here.