JMM's counter-punching useless against Floyd, but effective against Pacquiao. LOOK!

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  1. retriever

    retriever Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pac fought JMM at his best weight and that an older JMM and heavier fought Floyd.
     
  2. Circa

    Circa Skate And Destroy Full Member

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    Floyd By wide UD for now.
     
  3. stiga

    stiga Well-Known Member Full Member

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    no point of comparison because in mayweather-marquez it was fully grown welterweight vs. overgrown lightweight....in marquez-pacman both they were superfeather/featherweight at their best...marquez didn't carry his power and speed in moving up...only his stamina...but pacman carry his power well and he even faster and now carry both hands loaded with power so he will not rely on the much vaunted left to knock out his opponent...
     
  4. Silvermags

    Silvermags Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    they don't understand this your statement above..

    TO COMPLETE THE STORY...

    1)PBF vs ODLH FUL 12 ROUNDS
    PAC made ODLH QUIT on the 8th round

    2)PBF vs HATTON was 8 ROUNDS
    (NOT THE COMFORT ZONE OF HATTON. He followed PBF at 147lbs)
    PAC destroyed Hatton in 2 rounds

    3)PBF vs JMM
    JMM jumped 2 weight divisions + 2 EXTRA lbs which PBF NEVER BOTHERED TO SHED OFF
    PAC vs JMM
    (PAC fought him on his comfort zone)


    It's FUNNY that PBF fans are celebrating the win as if the win was DONE on the comfort zone of JMM. :yep:tong


    If PAC retires and comes back fighting somebody WHO WENT UP 2 WEIGHT DIVSIONS and PAC will add 2 extra pounds on the agreed weight
    WILL YOU GIVE PAC CREDIT even if that hypothetical boxer is #2 p4p?! :nut:rofl:nut




    IT'S NO BRAINER THAT PBF DIE HARD FANS DOES NOT UNDERSTAND THIS. :hat
     
  5. Silvermags

    Silvermags Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    agree
     
  6. satan12

    satan12 Play Fast Or Die Full Member

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    Lucky punch??? PAc floored JMM 4 times,



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  7. koko of phil

    koko of phil Ring of Fire Resident Full Member

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    Fighting style, height and weight often makes a difference.
     
  8. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Its not the point that Gatti is C level fighter, the point is Floyd stepped on the apron 140 on the nose, Gatti stepped on the apron more then likely at 155 -160
    and floyd was still able to out muscle the bigger gatti, and make the bigger gatti take steps backwards.

    even if floyd fought marqez at 130 135 or even 140 Floyd is still going to be stronger and quicker then Marquez, Marquez losses to floyd at any weight in the same fashion badly .

    so don't try to correct me mother ****er. ! I know what the **** Im talking about.
     
  9. Knives7

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    I doubt Pacquiao will return to boxing once he retires and wins the election. I doubt Pacquiao will do a Gayweather move. And Gayweather took 10 rounds to finish off Hatton not 8.

    And yes Pacquiao fought JMM in JMM's comfort zone. IMO JMM can still make it to 130 and swept the division. Pacquiao can't when he fought JMM at 130 he looked really pale (grey) during the weigh-in. He must've had some trouble shedding weight.
     
  10. Knives7

    Knives7 Boxing Addict banned

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    Gatti was a good fighter. He had 5 successful consecutive title defenses.
     
  11. tdubb

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    i know i dont post here much, but holy shyt take Floyd's **** out ur mouth bro.... the listerine is in the counter use it.
     
  12. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Of course Mayweather beats Marquez at any weight.......thats why he did'nt even bother to shed the 2 lbs and come in at the contracted weight......he did'nt do that because he knew that regardless he'd beat JMM anyway, so why prove it right?:nut:nut:nut:nut


    pit, you are fast becoming
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  13. PIPO23

    PIPO23 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Is not that Marquez doesnt have the skillz. it's just at 142 and NACHO pointed this out, SPEED or lack there of. They worked on it. They just didn't have it. Too slow for Floyd. And Mayweather's physical advantages, in skills and defense.Marquez had no chance.Marquez didnt carry any power at that weight he had no equalizer NADA.
     
  14. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Speed was'nt the real problem for Marquez....they already knew that Mayweather would be faster....

    The unknown in going in was whether Marquez would be strong enough that when he was inside Mayweather's reach, he could use his strenghth to stay there.......it turned out that Marquez was easily bumped and thrown around by Mayweather.......not suprisingly since it more than likely Marquez was outweighed by about 10 lbs on the night.

    When you get inside somebody's reach, you need to use strenghth to gain position to have punching advantage.
    Marquez just was'nt on par with Mayweather as far as strenghth..........thus with all the other advantages we already knew Mayweather had, Marquez just could'nt sustain an effective attack.......but true to his Aztec warrior spirit, Marquez never stopped trying!
     
  15. brood3

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    To the OP "no **** Sherlock". Mayweather is 2 inches taller than Pacquiao and 10 pounds heavier. Of Marquez's counter punching would be useless.
     
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