JMM's counter-punching useless against Floyd, but effective against Pacquiao. LOOK!

He may have been doing that in his last fights, but a fighter that doesn't engage and trade combinations cannot be counterpunched well, especially with the speed of mayweather. Marquez knows how to pressure, but not chase and force the other out of a defensive mode. If you think Mayweather doesn't run, you're delusional. I'm not saying he's not a great fighter, but he rides his bike like hes in a marathon in many rounds in many of his fights.

 

I don't know man JMM looks pretty over-extended on that left hook to me and if Pac's feet weren't in mid-air when the punch landed I doubt it wouldn't had much of an effect. You look at Pac's face when he finally gets his balance back and he doesn't really look hurt.

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it must be the PEDs

 

For real though if you give Pac a 4 lb advantage in either of his fights against JMM odds are that JMM doesn't make it past 4 rounds in either fight.

 

No.

Floyd is not physically afraid of Pac.

He KNOWS he's the faster bigger stronger man. And he knows he's the better boxer.

But Oscar was supposed to beat Pac.

It was supposed to be a slaughter. (And not of the kind it turned out).

And Hatton was supposed to beat Pac. Most devastating KO of the year, maybe the decade.

And Cotto was sure to beat him. And Cotto got the worst beating of his career.



So, yes, Floyd knows all that stuff I mentioned earlier, but he's not certain.


It comes down to balls.


And Floyd's are not as big as Pacs.

So yes, Floyd doesn't really want this fight at the minute.


Crystal ****in' clear.

 

Pac outweighs JMM come fight night. Pac has outweighed his opponents for the majority of his career.

 

Holy macaroni.

Pac gained 16 lbs overnight!

 

Ok, let's say Pac has more guts than Floyd. Ever occur to you Pac has no reason to fear anyone due to using PEDs? I'm not accusing him; let's just imagine he is juicing for a moment. Hell, if I was on PEDs I'd feel pretty damn invincible and would have no reason back down from any fight.

I'm not saying Floyd shouldn't be criticized but let's not ignore the fact that Pac has shown some masterful cowardly behavior himself:

-ducked both Mosley and Yuri
-instead of fighting Floyd in the ring, chooses to fight him in court
-fears that a few blood tests will weaken him during training

 

No.

Never.

Not for a moment.

Based on what ?

Any evidence whatsoever ?

Faulty premise. There is NO REASON to imagine that for a moment.

If It was James Toney, a slight possibility.

Mosley, a small chance.

Or any other boxer who'd ever had their name associated with juice ON ACCOUNY OF ACTUAL EVIDENCE.

Now you're into the realm of fantasy.

The fact that a fight never got made is no proof or even indication of ducking.

Yuri ???

Why would he fight Yuri if Clottey was available ?


Your case would STILL be weak if he chose Malinaggi after FMJ fell through.

Or some other lesser opponent. But in fighting Clottey, he's ducking Yuri ???

And Shane ?

WHen Shane was available, Pac was led to believe he would be facing the sterner challenge of Floyd.

By the time that got dicey, Shane was committed to Berto, who only cancelled after the Pac Clottey fight was made.

Well we're back to the original point. And it's STILL pretty clear who introduced unheard of roadblocks, without producing a shred of evidence.

He couldn't fight Floyd on account of FLOYD DUCKING HIM.

Totally and completely irrelevant. Fact is NO boxer, including Floyd, has ever asked for such tests.

And no opponent of either Pac or Floyd has ever made such a demand.

The boxing authorities have always had the role Floyd is trying to assign to himself here.


And to they see it Pac's way.


And for anyone to state that this is flawed, is tantamount to saying that there has NEVER BEEN A PROPERLY SUPERVISED TITLE FIGHT IN HISTORY.



Floyd is the bigger, stronger, better boxer.

He's just a little short on balls.

 

When did he duck Yuri ?

When did he duck Mosley ?

 

Links ?

 

Tyson performed his own independent blood tests on Holy.

During the fight.

And it got him disqualified.

 

That might be what was in his book.

But no blood tests were actually demanded of Holy by the boxing commission and Tyson did not make it a condition of the gight happening.

Re: AA, his own team policy can be whatever they want it to be.

This is not the same as an opponent demanding tests and making it a condition of the fight.


Once again, no boxing commission ever sanctioned blood tests other than their own routine tests (Which cahught Toney, among others).

And no title fight was ever shelved on account of a refusal to take extraordinary tests.


Final clincher.


Manny agreed to any and all tests (blood, urine and a handjob if required),
immediatelly after the fight.


Floyd didn't want this one.

That much is clear.

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when ???

 

:rofl:rofl:rofl this is hilarious to me! I know I quoted this before, but it's funny watching pac get rocked, it... looks... like... he was trying to do his jump out of range thing, but marquez caught him inbetween that... also notice how marquez kinda rolls with Floyd's punch a little

 

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