Joan Guzman: Biggest waste of talent?

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  1. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm ashamed to admit that I have only recently discovered Mini Tyson and from the videos that I've seen of him I'm really impressed with his skills. Shades of Mayweather but with more flash. Is Guzman the biggest waste of talent alongside Zab Judah and Andre Dirrell?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUX_gRTTS_E
     
  2. ElCyclon

    ElCyclon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Didn't we all agree to stop calling him Mini Tyson a long time ago:think
     
  3. jc

    jc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Don't understand him, he cannot control his weight at all. No discipline. Shame really he could be a great addition to 140.
     
  4. prelude

    prelude Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He would have knocked PAC out. PAC wanted none of him that's why took the Hoya fight.
     
  5. Aztecas

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    He changed his name from "Little Tyson" after Humberto Soto brought out the pusssy in him and made him run like a *****.
     
  6. TheGreenlad

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    Nope! very average fighter actually
     
  7. Changfoo

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    He is not even close to the fighting style of Mike Tyson. He is very skilled though and very slick with very good defense and good speed and power in his prime back in the mid 2000s in the 126-130lb.

    He didn't have the aura of Mike Tyson or the side to side or come forward bob and weave and killer combinations of Mike Tyson so I dunno why they call him little Tyson?
     
  8. Heavy Handed

    Heavy Handed I keep planets in orbit Full Member

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    Gamboa has gone the same path. Tons of potential, but overall a disappointment.
     
  9. TheGreenlad

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    Saying hes average is maybe too kind! horrible skills!
     
  10. TheGreenlad

    TheGreenlad Guest

    I'm Lauughing like crazy at how no one on this forum knows ****!! LOOLLLL
     
  11. TheGreenlad

    TheGreenlad Guest

    don't even put this guy in the same sentence as gamboa!!:blood
     
  12. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    I'm re-watching the Guzman/Soto fight right now and I have a very fond appreciation for it. I find myself rewatching it atleast once a year since it happened 7 years ago. Both fighters on the rise at the time hoping for a big fight with Pacquiao or a fight with Mab, morales and jmm. Imo both fighters were at their very peak going into this fight and were clearly motivated.

    With that being said Joan Guzman looked absolutely tremendous in this fight. You could immediately tell by his ring entrance he meant business and was 100% ready. Guzman boxed, brawled, fought inside and outside, threw wide punches with extraordinary speed and accuracy that Soto really had no answer for. I would pick him over Mab and morales at the weight with slight edges to Pac and jmm.

    Joan Guzman was definitely a waste of talent that had potential to be an ATG. He could of cleared out 4 divisions if he had control of his weight (122,126,130,135). It's a shame of how his career turned out to be but he has no one to blame but himself.

    I wish HBO would try harder to make fights like this of 2 up and coming fighters trying to make a name for themselves instead of 1 named fighter vs. cannon fodder.
     
  13. WildStyle

    WildStyle J.C. Penny's belt $2.99 banned

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    LOL

    You're making it sound like Guzman put on some kind of boxing masterclass in that fight when nothing could be further from the truth. He didn't even win the 1st round of that fight and the scorecards were bogus.
     
  14. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    Although the fight had its competitive moments Guzman had the fight far and away. 9-3 was more than fair for Soto.
    You felt Humberto Soto had his moments? :think
     
  15. travolt

    travolt Trolling the trolls Full Member

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    I've always found Guzman tremendous.
    But his career was derailed by chronic hand problems.