Joe Bugner Tribute Thread: All Time Great Contender

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  1. The Mongoose

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    we shud research further, no point strurting rumors.
     
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  2. Senor Pepe'

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    The Great Fistic Fighter from the Pacific Northwest.

    Boone Kirkman, proved his worth, by knocking out (KO 3) Eddie Machen {50-10-3},
    in just his 11th Pro bout, while scoring his 8th Knockout.

    The 1965 National A.A.U. Heavyweight Champion, at 6' 1" and 197 lbs.- with fast hands and
    'rocket-propelled power' in his right hand, was ready to take on Muhammad Ali.

    After knocking out Eddie Machen, Boone stated; 'Right now, I want that Chicken Clay or
    Cassius Ali, or whatever they call him, to get up here. I hear he can't fight in the cold weather climate.'

    Boone Kirkman Clobbering Eddie Machen {May 26, 1967}

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  3. frankenfrank

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    If I'm not mistaken Jones was shot when Kirkman stopped him and Machen was even older .
     
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  4. Seamus

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    The answer is actually...

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  5. kenmore

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    Pepe: if you dare to compare Kirkman to Bugner, I will have to put you on ignore.
     
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  6. kenmore

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    Just for the record, Machen was way past his peak when he lost to Kirkman. Kirkman wasn't much of a fighter. He was never a legitimate top-10 contender; rather, he was an advanced clubfighter, top-15 at best.

    Slow, ponderous, and hittable, Kirkman could never compete with the top seven or eight heavyweights of his era.
     
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  7. Senor Pepe'

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    Nobody ever put 'Fast Eddie' away like that,

    Except that freak loss to Ingo back in 1958.

    Despite being at the end of his career, in his previous '2-bouts' in 1967 -
    'Fast Eddie' had gone '10-Rounds' with 'Smokin Joe' Frazier before getting stopped,
    and he went '12-Rounds' with Henry Clark.

    And, 'Fast Eddie', only '10-Months' earlier, had upset undefeated California Heavyweight
    prospects, Jerry Quarry and Joey Orbillo in back-to-back fights.

    No, I have to say, Boone 'Boom Boom' Kirkman was very white and very great.
     
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  8. kenmore

    kenmore Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Kirkman was a clubfighter, little more. The guy had a lot of physical strenght, and he had good clubbing power if his opponent was dumb enough to present as a stationary target. But aside from that, Kirkman offered little. He moved around the ring like a crab...or a college wrestler. No speed, no athleticism.

    You are getting closer and closer to the "ignore" button in my book.
     
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  9. kenmore

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    BEATING NARROWLY AVOIDED: Boone Kirkman was brought to London in November 1974 to serve as Bugner's opponent. Bugner was coming off of an impressive victory over Ring Magazine's #10 heavyweight, Jimmy Ellis, and was nearing a title fight with ATG Muhammad Ali. Experts and fans alike agreed that Bugner would make mincemeat out of Kirkman, who was simply not in Bugner's league in terms of ability. But Kirkman injured his shoulder while sparring, and had to withdraw from the fight. Argentina's Alberto Lovell was substituted for Kirkman at the last moment. Bugner demolished Lovell in two rounds.

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  10. kenmore

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    WORLD RATED HEAVYWEIGHT DEMOLISHED BY BUGNER: In November 1974, former WBA world champ Jimmy Ellis arrived in London to face Bugner in a high stakes heavyweight showdown. Bugner was rated #6 by Ring Magazine at the time; the same publication rated Ellis #10. Bugner won an easy decision, winning every round and flooring Ellis in round ten for good measure. Ring Magazine named Bugner "Fighter of the Month" for his impressive showing.

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  11. Seamus

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    Johnny du Plooy was the single most talented fighter the sport ever saw, any division, any race, any era.
     
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  12. kenmore

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    MAC FOSTER: ANOTHER TOP RATED HEAVYWEIGHT WHIPPED BY BUGNER: In October 1973, Bugner won an easy decision over top-15 rated Mac Foster. Bugner won every round.

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  13. Senor Pepe'

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    June 1967

    Muhammad Ali

    'I'm not going to Washington. No way, I don't like the cold weather and I don't want
    to fight Daniel Boone either. That kid is the best white heavyweight out there. They say if
    I fight him, I have to go to Washington, way up there near Canada. He won't come
    down here to fight, where it is warm.'

    " Just think about it, me fighting Daniel Boone'.

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  14. kenmore

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    Ali was just bullshitting. Everyone knew Kirkman couldn't threaten the top heavyweights. At best, he was a tough loser...a sturdy opponent for the top names.

    Pepe: this is a Joe Bugner tribute thread...I'm warning you...clean up your act and pay respect to Bugner. Fast.
     
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  15. Danmann

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    I cant see anyone seriously disagreeing with that.
     
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