Joe Calzaghe and Bernard Hopkins. ***** Talk!

NEWSFLASH. Bernard Hopkins has been fighting the best for a while now. And according to Boxrec is the #1 P4P, who has Calcracky fought? Bhop was in a division that was deeper and help the UNIFIED title, while stay at home joe defended his lone WBO title. Joe needs BHop more than Bhop needs him. Lemme just put it this way, if BHop retired right now Calzaghe would never reach Bhop on ATG list, not even close!

 

Hopkins has dominated the light heavyweight division and he just wants to fight the best. He called out Calzaghe, and if Calzaghe wins his next fight and doesn't fight Hokins, well, then he's ducking him.

 

A win over Kessler and then the winner of Pavlik/Taylor would solidify Calzaghe as a P4P great better than if he fought an old slow Hopkins.
As i've said before, Calzaghe will get absolutely no credit if he beats Hopkins. Everyone will say he beat an old man and if he fought Hopkins in his prime he'd get destroyed.
So, in this sense, Calzaghe doesn't need Hopkins at all. Short of the paycheque he'll receive, it's a no win situation.

 

You cannot be ****ing serious.

dominated the lhw decision by beating Tarver??? And getting Winky up from middleweight????

What about the guys that ACTUALLY FIGHT at 175 and aren't ancient???

2 fights = domination in your eyes? and one was a middleweight.

If he want's to fight the best, why get Winky up from 160? Why not try and fight an actual belt holder?

Sweet Jesus.

 

He didnt dominate but he beat the linear champ, who was regarded as the best at lightheavy. Thats teh only credit i give cause he kinda set Winky up, by making him fight him at 170 and used all the dirty tactics.

 

:happy

 

I don't think Hopkins needs to step inside the ring with Joe to be considered the best fighter today. Bernard has fought the best, beaten the best. I think its Joe that needs to step in with Hopkins if he wants to be considered the best. If Hopkins retired today, Joe would still be nowhere close to Hopkins on the ATG list. If Joe beat him, you wouldn't hear me say its only because Hopkins was old, i would give him the credit for beating a legend that is still sharp enough at this current time.

 

Would Hopkins even be comfortable fighting at 168?

Both JC and Kessler would fieldtrip Hopkins.

 

This doesn't make any sense. First you ask why Hopkins doesn't need Calzaghe. Then second, you come out and say Bernard Hopkins doesn't need Joe Calzaghe. Thirdly, you critisize those who say "Hopkins doesn't need Calzaghe" and dismiss their opinion as "***** talk." Then you say if Hopkins wants to be the best he needs Joe Calzaghe because "fighters come to fight until the end of time."

WTF:huh


If Bernard Hopkins retired today, he would be considered the greater fighter by a vast majority of fans even if Calzaghe beats Kessler. Hopkins has been fighting the best and doesn't need Joe Calzaghe to solidify his legacy. His legacy is already set. If he beat Calzaghe, he would rise to new heights and if he lost, his legacy as an all time great wouldn't be hurt. So no, Hopkins doesn't need Calzaghe. Calzaghe could use Hopkins more than Hopkins could use Calzaghe.

 

:good on first paragraph. In my book, a legacy is not fully solidified, when there are still great champions to be fought(at possible weights).

To me Hopkins will always stand out as the one, that "secured" his legacy through risk/reward fights. With the reward department surpassing the risk by far.

 

amount of times b-hop has fought outside the states - twice

amount of times calzaghe has fought outside the uk - twice

:think

 

Calzaghe was willing to fight in Denmark against Kessler, too. (Kessler didn't want it, because he wouldn't have earned anything.)
B-Hop doesn't seem to be willing to face Joe in Britain. Joe wants to fight where the money is (at least, he says it).
I blame Joe because of his poor opponents so far, not because he likes to stay at home.

 

He didn't beat Zsolt Erdei.



Tarver was never linear champion.

 

Would Hopkins travel to Denmark to fight Kessler like Calzaghe was going to? I doubt it.