Joe Calzaghe could of defeated any fighter in history in his prime! at super middle!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by TFFP, Dec 30, 2007.


Page 5 of 17
  1. Haye

    Haye Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,928
    2
    Oct 11, 2007
    No. Roy Jones beats him for sure, and about 10 others could maybe beat him....

    Including, from the best to the worst chance against him....

    Toney - 50-50
    McClellan - 50-50
    BHop - 55-45 in Calzaghe's favour
    Nunn - 55 - 45 '' ''
    Benn - 60 - 40 '' ''
     
    Haye, Dec 31, 2007
    Haye, Dec 31, 2007
    #61
  2. Haye

    Haye Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,928
    2
    Oct 11, 2007
    But I do agree that he probably beats everyone except Jones. Including Toney.
     
    Haye, Dec 31, 2007
    Haye, Dec 31, 2007
    #62
  3. Haye

    Haye Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,928
    2
    Oct 11, 2007
    Good point, he could give Calzaghe hell. But I think he is too small tbh.
     
    Haye, Dec 31, 2007
    Haye, Dec 31, 2007
    #63
  4. Lloyd Bank$

    Lloyd Bank$ Prize Fighter Full Member

    30
    0
    Dec 15, 2007
    RJJ would beat Calzaghe for certain prime for prime..
     
    Lloyd Bank$, Dec 31, 2007
    Lloyd Bank$, Dec 31, 2007
    #64
  5. SevenSamurai

    SevenSamurai 3 year ESB vet. Full Member

    1,735
    1
    Aug 18, 2005
    :patsch :rofl :rofl :rofl :lol:

    To think that there are actually people as un-educated as you posting here.

    Collins had a chance, but Roy didnt?!!!

    Steve Collins is a better fighter than Roy is he? You idiot.:rofl


    Collins was garbage and cleared up when Benn and Eubanks were both past their best.

    Roy Jones would easily beat Calzaghe any weight class from SMW up.

    A prime McCallum and Eubank would be a 50-50.
     
    SevenSamurai, Dec 31, 2007
    SevenSamurai, Dec 31, 2007
    #65
  6. KDot10

    KDot10 Roy Jones Jr. Full Member

    685
    0
    Dec 30, 2007
    He would never beat a prime RJJ in super-middle
     
    KDot10, Dec 31, 2007
    KDot10, Dec 31, 2007
    #66
  7. crippet

    crippet Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,377
    20
    Dec 1, 2007
    That'd be a great fight. But McCallum beat Herol Graham and Eubank once commented that Graham & RJJ are two fights he wouldn't take as he only has a 50/50 chance of winning .Eubank Humility :nut

    So I would place Eubank as the underdog V McCallum.
     
    crippet, Dec 31, 2007
    crippet, Dec 31, 2007
    #67
  8. john b

    john b EVERTON 0- OLdham 1 Full Member

    6,354
    0
    Jul 6, 2007
    Eubank in his prime would have beaten him, so would of nigel benn.
     
    john b, Dec 31, 2007
    john b, Dec 31, 2007
    #68
  9. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

    15,217
    169
    Jul 23, 2004
    Depends. I don't see McCellan as a better boxer than Benn. If you have seen enough of Benn's career, you'll know that he was very busy with the jab while coming forward, thus boxing aggressively. Everything heavy that Benn threw came off the jab.

    But Benn wasn't cute with his boxing, and thats why Calzaghe would probably beat him.

    One thing which Calzaghe would find difficult with Benn, his ability to crouch low and spring forward with counters. He changed the height. McClellan was more rigid with less movement from the waist upwards.
     
    Robbi, Dec 31, 2007
    Robbi, Dec 31, 2007
    #69
  10. TFFP

    TFFP Guest

    Benn and Eubank are not in the same class as a prime Joe Calzaghe. Not a chance. They are very good fighters, just a notch below
     
    TFFP, Dec 31, 2007
    TFFP, Dec 31, 2007
    #70
  11. john b

    john b EVERTON 0- OLdham 1 Full Member

    6,354
    0
    Jul 6, 2007
    They are not a notch below. Eubank nAnd Benn made boxing great in Britain in the early nineties a prime Eubank is different to the one who fought calzaghe.
     
    john b, Dec 31, 2007
    john b, Dec 31, 2007
    #71
  12. TFFP

    TFFP Guest

    It works the other way, a prime Joe Calzaghe is much better than the one that defeated Eubank. I could easily argue Joe was green, he had noway near the ring smarts he displays today

    Eubank and Benn did great things for British boxing, but they do get more respect because they are English. They are not as good as Joe Calzaghe
     
    TFFP, Dec 31, 2007
    TFFP, Dec 31, 2007
    #72
  13. john b

    john b EVERTON 0- OLdham 1 Full Member

    6,354
    0
    Jul 6, 2007
    Fair enough it is speculation. I mean how would Joe do against Micheal watson probably the most underated and talented one out of the bunch.
     
    john b, Dec 31, 2007
    john b, Dec 31, 2007
    #73
  14. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

    14,565
    11
    May 10, 2007
    Roy Jones would have beaten Joe.
     
    196osh, Dec 31, 2007
    196osh, Dec 31, 2007
    #74
  15. TFFP

    TFFP Guest

    Watson was a class act in and out of the boxing ring. I always felt he was just short of Eubank/Benn's level. I fancy Joe by late stoppage, especially when his hands were good

    To emphasize my point, I'd love to know what Benn/Eubank do better than a prime Calzaghe. Benn obviously has an edge in power, but that aside I'm struggling
     
    TFFP, Dec 31, 2007
    TFFP, Dec 31, 2007
    #75
Page 5 of 17