Joe Calzaghe could of defeated any fighter in history in his prime! at super middle!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by TFFP, Dec 30, 2007.


  1. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I truly believe that you are a complete moron who can't think objectively when it comes to one, Joe Calzaghe.

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  2. TFFP

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  3. john b

    john b EVERTON 0- OLdham 1 Full Member

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    I mean I never saw toney or jones fight at 168, I was more concerned about the domestic scene and they were the fights being shown on ITV and Sky. Watson I believed was the best out of the bunche Koed Ben when benn was at his dangerous best, Unfortunate to draw the first fight against Eubank nad the a creuel knock out in twelfth by Eubank and we know unfortunately known what happened after that. Wait TFFP, Barry Mcgiugian was not English and he got noteraity and good press.
     
  4. TFFP

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    Oh aye, but he's not Welsh is he ;)
     
  5. mstar

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    i would agree with that benn and eubank admitted JC would proabably beat them when they were all fighting and you dnt get higher praise then that...


    also didn't RJ get caught with using roids? i am not sur if it was a allegation or it was proven???
     
  6. crippet

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    It's not because they were English that they get more respect. It is because they had each other at the time which increased each others worth.

    It is also because they both had fights where they stretched themselves and went to a place that few boxers do Benn Vs McClennan and Eubank Watson II.

    I know its not Calzaghe's fault that he hasnt had to give that much of himself in a fight to win.

    That aside, the worth of boxers is only truly evaluated after they have retired. As Joe is still active I wouldn't worry about his respect, that will come in spades 3 - 5 years down the line.

    Good point about the Pre prime Calzaghe beating Post Prime Eubank. That is near as prime v prime as you ask for I suppose.

    Any fights against Watson, Eubank, Benn, Collins, Graham would start with Calzaghe favourite, but not would be a given or easy!
     
  7. john b

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  8. TFFP

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    I don't think Joe will ever get the mainstream respect those guys got, whatever he does in his next couple of fights

    There are many reasons for that, but I'd expect most hardcore boxing fans to acknowledge the difference in class, especially if Joe finishes unbeaten as I expect he will
     
  9. Fab2333

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  10. Fab2333

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  11. crippet

    crippet Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I disagree, he will get it in spades!!!

    He just got Sports personality of the year beating the favourite Lewis Hamilton
    Calzaghe just fought in front of 50k plus against a non Brit
    Eubank & Benn fought in front of 42K. That is Eubank and Benn neither on their own.

    And can you recall how disliked Eubank was by the British public, probably up until Calzaghe beat him. Once he retired and his career was re evaluated and he is given the credit he deserves.

    Well Calzaghe will, eventually get this, and then some.. When were Benn or Eubank ever in the pound for pound top 10??
     
  12. TFFP

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    Still, the average person on the street wouldn't have a ****ing clue who Joe Calzaghe is. That Sports Personality is bollocks

    Everyone knows Benn and Eubank
     
  13. crippet

    crippet Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Sports personality may be bollock but it is still voted for by the public!

    And the average person didn't know who Benn or Eubank were during their careers.

    At the height of their careers could either have fought a German in the UK in front of over 50'000 punters???
    Lewis V Bruno got no where near that.

    Calzaghe & Hatton....I can't think any other British boxers who were as popular actually during their careers

    Eubank & Benn fought in arena all their career. Calzaghe now fights in Stadiums!!!
     
  14. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Calzaghe is a great fighter, and lower tier ATG on resume, and higher based on ability alone. But at some point I would ask that you give the same respect to the great fighters on this side of the pond that you argue for constantly in regards to your own revered fighters. Fans on both sides lack some knowledge and have some bias, but this has little to do with the fighters themselves.
     
  15. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Are you including fighters prior to 1984 who weighed between 160 and 175 before the creation of the super middleweight division?

    The division that was created for overweight middleweights and timid light heavys?

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