Joe Calzaghe: "I want to beat Jones and retire undefeated"

Fact is, no one really cares what you think. Calzaghe could beat Pavlik, Dawson and Haye in one night and you'd still call him a bum/overated/la-dee-dah.

 

JC might even stop Jones but Id bet UD.

 

You're touching some raw nerves there, dude !

Expect some shrieks of denial from the fallen.

 

If Calzaghe faces Pavlik it will almost certainly be in Cardiff now. You're telling me that he is more frightened of Pavlik than he was of Kessler? The only fears Calzaghe might potentially have are of himself and, if these prove to be noteworthy, then he should retire with his faculties intact. There is no argument whatsoever! You can debate about whether ir not he should have fought this fighter or that fighter while he sits on the beach!

 

Fact is due to past being prologue if he wasn't retiring he'd duck all 3 of those fighters to take a rematch with Hopkins, a mega-match with Hagler and a once in a lifetime super-fight with Nigel Benn, and then pronounce himself the greatest figher ever because he's still undefeated.

Hug his nads all you like, his career is smoke and mirrors - avoiding Jones and Hopkins for years and taking them both on when they're both obviously way past their best proves this. Even funnier than that was it was obvious if Hopkins had anything left in the tank whatsoever he'd have owned Calzaghe - post a poll on that one if you like :yep

 

Of course he's more scared of Pavlik than he was Kessler....the man is a proven champion whereas Kessler only really made his name off losing closely to Calzaghe after working his way through a **** division.

As I said before, Kessler comfortably beat twice the guy that beat Hopkins twice, who was obviously the better fighter in the ring against Calzaghe but didn't have anything left in the tank.

Calzaghe thinks he's going to get respect for this Jones fight but it's just a sham - he should have grown a set of balls and fought him back in 2001-2002 when he was shouting from the rooftops that Jones was scared of him, while doing everything in his power to avoid fighting the man.

 

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Yes, those are the fights. I also believe that Taylor would **** Calslappy up, by the way, probably easier than Pavlik would, styles make fights and all that :good

Before you laugh, who beat Hopkins more comfortably, Taylor or Calslappy? Who fought the better Hopkins?

Argument over - if there ever was one.

 

It's been documented several times on this forum that Hopkins avoided Calzaghe in 2002.

No ifs, ands or buts.

Cut and dried.

Hopkins backed out.

(Greed, not fear).




Roy avoided Joe (and DM) as much as they avoided him.

Roy would have beaten both of them, but, as Roy put it: The risk/reward ratio wasn't good (or words to that effect).


The Roy fight is admittedly a bit meaningless at this point, but that's not entirely Joe's fault.

 

Sorry but the phrase 'not entirely Joes fault' has been used about 20 times too often in this guys career for it to hold water any more. The only person I can recall Jones being accused of ducking was DM and even then it was bull**** because DM was the crappy WBO champ and refused to fight in America basically for fear of getting robbed by the judges (which is funny as **** in itself, coming from a kraut-land fighter :rofl )

The Hopkins thing.....maybe but Hopkins doesn't have a record of talking about big fights and then not taking them. Calzaghe does.

 

That's the best you can do? Call me a girl's name? And over what? Pointing out Joe is choking on his own words? I guess after Joe misplaced his balls and went after Jones instead of Pavlik, I guess his fan's follow suit? :rofl Proven Fact: You can't take Joe at his word. :deal

 

Uhm, being that over half of the media polled of Hopkins vs Taylor believed Hopkins won the fight and 80% of the media polled believed Calzaghe vs Hopkins, Calzaghe won the fight.

Calzaghe beat Hopkins more effectively.

 

Can you prove this or are you just pulling stats out of mid-air? Most boxing fans I know who watched the fights thought Taylor narrowly beat Hopkins both times and Hopkins narrowly beat Calzaghe. You could even count Calzaghes own team in that, they all thought he'd lost against Hopkins, just listen to the between rounds comments from his ******ed father for proof :yep

 

Now you're getting carried away.

Bernard won between two and four rounds, depending on your level of generosity.

He used every trick to survive the twelve.



The Hopkins-Taylor fights were close. Both could have been called narrowly for either fighter.