JOE CALZAGHE-" I would beat Andre Ward"

Too Busy, Too many angles, yadda yadda yadd, they say this same BS about Pac and Floyd, but deep down we all know who wins. Ward>Calslappy

 

haha! I was only joking about you when I said dont turn Ward';s obvious late coasting with Froch into a pro-Calzaghe manifesto..but you really did do it! You'd be an excellent spin doctor. full credit to you for never backing down, even if you cant see the wood for the trees.

Repeating myself when the OP isnt reading isnt my style, so adieu.

 

We will know. All we know now is that both are special fighters.

We have yet to see Ward even really stretched by his opposition, which is very impressive given his excellent level of competition recently. I was skeptical but he has proven himself more than anybody.

 

Blew it? His career worked out really well, as far as I can tell. He made some decent cash.

People are too obsessed with the way he cherrypicked Hopkins and Jones at the end of his career. Not sure what bigger challenges he should have went after. Going after prime Roy is the only one I can think off. (Granted the fight could have been made). Moving up to LHW maybe?

 

He didnt avoid Jones either

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6:45 in. "For 2 years Calzaghe has chased pound for pound number one Roy Jones, but to no avail".
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*THIS VIDEO IS ON YOUTUBE: 'Roy Jones jr looks ahead to Calzaghe'*

Steve Bunce: When did Joe first pop up in a conversation?

Roy Jones: When he beat Chris Eubank I started watching him then.

Steve Bunce: 1997

Roy Jones: I knew it then...but he then kinda backed down on the opponents he was fighting so I RELEASED THE IDEA OF IT [fighting Joe].

So Jones admits he was aware of Joe early on, but wasn't interested in fighting him.


BBC, 21st November 2001.
"It's all very well being the best in the world, but you need big names for big fights," he reflects.

A fight with the Eric Lucas, the WBC champion, is a possibility, but unification fights are notoriously hard and expensive to arrange.

As is a bout with Roy Jones.

"To be honest I'm getting quite fed up with it," Calzaghe said.

A bout against the undisputed light heavyweight champion has been the subject of ongoing speculation.

"It's difficult because of the different networks involved. He's with HBO and I'm with Showtime - that's a massive obstacle in itself.

"Secondly, you've got to ask yourself whether Roy Jones would want to fight me.
"At the moment he picks his own opponents, fights the easiest guys he can and gets a lot of money for beating them.

"I'm dangerous and I can take the mega money out of his pocket. Why would he want to fight me?


Jones himself made the statement that he did not go fight him because it was too risky be it in the UK or states...he stated that on National TV while commentating on Calzaghe/Hopkins those words exactly get a copy of the fight and find out yourself....If Jones said it himself then any argument you have is out the window because Jones stated nothing about why should I have...I was ranked #1 he was ranked # whatever he said...IT WAS TOO RISKY FOR ME AT THAT TIME ESPECIALLY IF I HAD TO GO TO THE UK... he added nothing in on it....


roy jones the man who fought Richard Frazier the part time cop and then bragged about his greatness afterward....

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Former four-division champion Roy Jones Jr, speaking with The Sunday Times, responded to Joe Calzaghe's recent claim of chasing Jones for several years and being brushed aside. Calzaghe spoke with The Sunday Mirror and appeared to have some newfound hostility when Jones' name came up.

"I spent five or six years chasing Jones and he acted like he never even knew my name," said Calzaghe. "Suddenly, I beat Hopkins in Vegas and Jones wants to be my neighbor - it's ridiculous. If a fight with Jones made sense from a cash point of view, then it could happen, but he is notorious for asking for too much money."

Jones says that he viewed Calzaghe as a possible opponent several years ago, but at the time he saw no reason to travel to Wales to chase the fight. Now that Calzaghe is the bigger star, Jones is willing to make the fight anywhere.

“I saw Joe as a potential opponent a long time ago,” Jones said. “But I had my eyes on higher things, such as winning the heavyweight title, so it was nothing against Joe, I love everything about him. He’s a fun guy, an entertaining guy, a good person. We took some pictures together with his sons after the fight on Saturday and we’ve talked on the phone. But boxing is business. When I was the best pound-for-pound boxer in the world it wouldn’t have been smart for me to go and fight Joe.

”You don’t go to somebody else when you’re the best, they must come to you, so I wouldn’t take the risk, and why would I? Why would I meet that challenge when I’m already the best? Why would I go to your country and give you a chance to allow the powers that be to take a close decision and give it to you?"

Jones says a fight with Calzaghe is the best fight in boxing, even better than a possible rematch between Oscar De La Hoya and Floyd Mayweather Jr, scheduled for September.

“But right now this is the best fight out there, better than the Oscar De La Hoya-Floyd Mayweather rematch because we all know what the outcome of that fight is going to be – another win for Floyd. You don’t know the outcome of this fight, however, so it’s a fight people are going to want to see. There’s suspense, and that’s what makes for a big fight," Jones says.

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I used to laugh at that b.s.
It's like everyone saying "This is the next Jordan" while talking about some kid who is still playing in High-School.

The comparisons with Tyson are only close in that Jeff physically looked like a SMW version of Tyson (without the massive legs that Tyson had) and that he was Black. Other than that...NO WAY was he Tyson. 15 year old Tyson > J.L.

J.L. doesn't even come close to a young Floyd Patterson.

All that said: I like Joe. Great Champion. Great Natural Talent.
But I still think he could have been better if he was trained from a "technical" stand-point by someone other than his Father...which I think should say a lot of how talented he was.
But of course his Father would always have to be there to kick him in the ass when he doesn't want to train.

 

It's quite simple: Roy was P4P King. More popular than Joe. And, he was LH Champion of the World. And, he was fighting on the biggest stage in boxing...in America.

So, if Joe wanted Roy, all he had to do is Move up One Division, and fight in the States and get his shot. He never did. That is, until Roy was Shot.

So in this case, I blame Joe for not wanting/taking the fight with a PRIME ROY JONES JR.

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Now the fighter that Joe did seem to really want was Bernard Hopkins who in this case, I fault Hopkins for doing what Joe did with regards to a fight with Roy....he didn't move up because it was to much risk.

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But in the end, both Roy and Joe were trying to make history in their particular ONE division. And it was their choice to do whatever.

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Shame, because they all eventually met. However, Joe was slightly past his best and Bernard certainly was past his best. And Roy, already on the decline in his 30's (even before fighting Ruiz), never looked the same after coming back down to LH and was SHOT to pieces by the time he met Joe.

 

50/50 fight but I would pick Ward. As long as it's not in England, Ward has a chance on the cards if it's a close fight.

 

Every couple of months Joe comes out and claims he would have beat this guy or that guy.

Clearly he is not content with his overall level of opposition.

 

That old gentleman got so badly ****ed up the ass, figuratively and literally, that he couldn't find his own corner for most of the evening. :yep

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Ward has proven no ****!!!! I don't simply get why the super six which later turn to super three is so overrated. Apparently winning it makes you something. The best win in that tournament is against Froch, who lost already to Kessler, who lost to Calzaghe.

The tournament between Darchinyan, Agbeko, Mares is more credible than that Super six ****.

Until he fights someone who is actually fast; a turtle would look fast if it is running against an ant.

Wake me up when he actually accomplished something already.

 

That old gentleman got so badly ****ed up the ass, figuratively and literally, that he couldn't find his own corner for most of the evening. :yep

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come on, you should know better than to argue with Bailey,guys. He turns everything into a pro-Calzaghe stance. He just tried to turn the landslide Ward-Froch scorecard into 'Ward was losing' when the rest of the world saw Ward paste Froch. He must have dreamt hes Hatman Begins, walking into the fight and changing the scorecards.