joe Calzaghe Is not ducking Pavlik

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  1. jkdking

    jkdking Active Member Full Member

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    frank warren keeps his fighters away from fighting the best. and trys to make easy money. while building his fighters up a nice record. he wanted joe to fight kelly. he knows jones could cause him more trouble even if he is f%%ked.



    now this is a promoter who did not want to make the David Haye v Enzo Maccarinelli fight.
    at first he was willing to make the fight happen only if haye would sign a contract. if haye won he would belong to frank.
    so what haye did was say his weight was troubling him and that he had to move up to heavy. frank jumped at it and tryed to sign the fight straight away.

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  2. Tuavale

    Tuavale Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No, he's only avoiding him.:rofl :rofl
     
  3. kgs83

    kgs83 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yea from what i've heard that is how the story went. Even tho Haye was having alil problems with making weight it wasn't as bad as he had made out.

    Well done Haye for pulling one over Frank.
     
  4. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    :hey
     
  5. RafaelGonzal

    RafaelGonzal Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I thought everyone had agreed that yes! Calzaghe ducked Pavlik to the point of getting rid of his manager. Didnt you read the memo.
     
  6. Samurai

    Samurai I lost an avatar bet Full Member

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    Pavlik is ducking The Punisher
     
  7. O-HIGH-O

    O-HIGH-O Team Pavlik Full Member

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    Cal knows roy jones fight would be easier than a pavlik, not that i am saying jones couldnt win, but its an easier fight in my eyes too. Yes he ducked pavlik
     
  8. treva1977

    treva1977 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    what r u sniffing .jones is a much harder fight for calzaghes style.
    pavlik is joes ideal fighter .joe would beat pav ud easy.jones has a chance.
     
  9. Strike

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    It doesn't matter if the only reason Calzaghe takes Jones instead of Pavlik is purely for money and not because he is scared. The fact will remain that he ducked Pavlik.

    There might be many reasons to duck someone, but he knows that Pavlik means more now than RJJ and he knows Pavlik is a bigger threat, if he decides he wants one big pay day rather than add to his legacy he has ducked Pavlik, no ifs and no buts.

    I don't think he is scared of him, if he was a coward he would never have faced Lacy and Kessler. But he is taking the easy option as he did for too long in his career and going for money first. That is ducking and it will be a sour note to end his career on.

    That said I think people should wait until a fight is announced before mouthing off as if they know for a fact which fight will be made. Lets not forget we kept hearing how he was ducking Lacy and ducking Kessler then we heard he was fighting Woods instead of Hopkins and the whole board (mainly American posters) were ranting on about how he was ducking Hopkins.

    By now you would think people might wait before shouting and proclaiming things with such certainty about Calzaghe. But if he does do what is being said, it is a duck. End of story.
     
  10. jkdking

    jkdking Active Member Full Member

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    dont listen to that. warren protects his fights very well. y do you think he wants joe Calzaghe to fight kelly Pavlik.

    if he went to the US 10 years ago he would have been beat. he would have had 3 or 4 loss. i would even go as far as saying mike mccallum at 40 years old would have gave him trouble

    and frank knows it. thats y he never came over.
    hatton came over y did he come over, because he was not with FRANK.
    and what happened when he came over.

    frank is very very clever
     
  11. Serenata

    Serenata Fit und geimpft Full Member

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    Ducking means being afraight of someone and I truly don´t think that is the case. RJJ is just more money. period.
     
  12. toffeejack

    toffeejack Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wow some sense from someone on the subject at last.
     
  13. jkdking

    jkdking Active Member Full Member

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    y do you think after david haye won his last fight. he said you cant keep the best from fighting each other. he said that to frank
     
  14. ocelot

    ocelot Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    of course he's ducking Pavlik. He's friggin 37 years old. He's heading out to pasture in about 3 or 4 months. He would have beaten Pavlik in his prime, but he's a few years past. He's a sensible guy.
     
  15. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Of course not. Pavlik is not Calzaghe's mandatory. Anyway, Calzaghe is on the veterans' circuit now, just chasing one last big paycheck. Nothing wrong with that.:good