Joe Calzaghe moved up and fought the light HW champion - why can't Andre Ward?

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  1. daprofessor

    daprofessor da legendary professor Full Member

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    that was at the end of his career. ward has plenty of career left in front of him.
     
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  2. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Look Carcharias, I'm not the one who posts on racist websites or keeps getting his threads deleted for flaming. But the fact is Ward can still make some good fights at 168 and would benefit from waiting the the Stevenson-Kovalev winner. He'd also benefit from first getting GGG before moving up and taking care of business at 175. Only a fool or someone driven by a keen hatred of AA fighters would jump to the conclusions you've jumped to. A year ago before the emergence of Golovkin and Kovalev you were bitching how Ward owed Froch and Kessler rematches. Oh how the story has changed with the emergence of a top EE light heavy you're hoping will beat the p4p number two fighter in the world! :lol:
     
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  3. freedom2013

    freedom2013 Boxing Junkie banned

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    You post in my threads, making nasty personal attacks on me to start a fight, and then report me to a mod when I reply.
    I wasn't bitching. I thought to be fair, Ward should rematch them in Europe. But that was before both Kessler looked faded in his fight with Froch, and Froch looked faded in his fight with Groves.
     
    freedom2013, Jan 16, 2014
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  4. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    No. Ward isn't even a big SMW.

    He fought LH as an amateur because there is no amateur SMW.
     
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  5. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    Duly noted. The super 6 did wonders for Andre. There are also good fights at 168 to be made. GGG would be good and if groves continues to emerge...
     
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  6. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm make no more personal attacks than yourself, so stop calling the kettle black.

    Now, back to boxing which is where I'd like all conversations to remain...if you can refrain from your constant whining. 1. Couldn't we easily say zags waited for Hopkins and Jones to get old before moving up? 2. Wouldn't Groves be viable option while Ward waits for GGG, Stevenson and Kovalev to sort themselves out? Stop being a hater and try looking at this objectively for a minute.
     
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  7. FilipMNE

    FilipMNE Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Andre will go up sooner than Joe did, so what is your point
     
    FilipMNE, Jan 16, 2014
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  8. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm make no more personal attacks than yourself, so stop calling the kettle black.

    Now, back to boxing which is where I'd like all conversations to remain...if you can refrain from your constant whining. 1. Couldn't we easily say zags waited for Hopkins and Jones to get old before moving up? 2. Wouldn't Groves be viable option while Ward waits for GGG, Stevenson and Kovalev to sort themselves out? Stop being a hater and try looking at this objectively for a minute.
     
    JAB5239, Jan 16, 2014
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  9. Beatdaddy

    Beatdaddy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yep.
     
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  10. freedom2013

    freedom2013 Boxing Junkie banned

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    Is Groves coming off a loss? He's a safe opponent, especially with Ward having all his home California state officials. I'm being objective.

    Since you're supposed to be a boxing history buff, answer this:

    If Sam Langford weighing 157 fought heavyweight Jack Johnson, why can't Ward fight a light heavyweight? Langford was smaller than Ward. The 168 division didn't even exist for most of boxing history. The old timers often moved up from 160 to 175.

    You always call me a nuthugger, but you're not objective about Ward. You always say Wladimir is boring, but you say Ward is exciting. Isn't that an OBVIOUS example of a double standard? Most Americans agree Ward is boring to watch.
     
    freedom2013, Jan 16, 2014
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  11. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The Groves loss is controversial and Froch doesn't want the rematch. Therefore this fight makes sense while things are sorted out at 160 and 175. If you believe Langford was ready for the move up against Johnson than you should feel the same about GGG. you don't because it doesn't jibe with what you want to see happen. But if you really want to get into a historical debate with me than feel free, I'll be happy to accommodate you. And as far as me calling Wlad boring and Ward exciting...we both know that's a lie and I challenge you to produce any such post. What I have said and stand by is Ward uses more tools with no advantages so he's more exciting. That does not mean I find him exciting overall.
     
    JAB5239, Jan 16, 2014
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  12. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And "poof", he disappears in the face of common sense! :yep
     
    JAB5239, Jan 16, 2014
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  13. freedom2013

    freedom2013 Boxing Junkie banned

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    You don't seem to understand that I have a life. Trolling my threads and baiting the Klitschko fans is the most important thing in your life, but you're a low priority for me.

    If there's one thing in my life I truly regret, it's having wasted so much of my time with you.
     
    freedom2013, Jan 16, 2014
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  14. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You still haven't answered my post. To much common sense for you huh? :yep
     
    JAB5239, Jan 16, 2014
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  15. freedom2013

    freedom2013 Boxing Junkie banned

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    No. The truth is it's NOT good common sense to waste time with you.

    You never really address anything anybody else posts anyway. You just come back with your same old nationalistic and racist garbage over and over again.

    If Andre Ward were Russian, Ukrainian or Polish yet the same in every other way, you'd despise him worse than you do the Klitschkos and you'd ridicule, discredit and bash him (and harrass his fans).

    Why can't you out of my threads? I don't post in yours. Can you not control yourself?
     
    freedom2013, Jan 16, 2014
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