Joe Calzaghe p4p no.1

This is hilarious. How the hell can Calzaghe be No.1 P4P?? Mayweather is still no.1 by fair. If Calzaghe put up a better performance against BHOP maybe he would reach no.2. Joe is good but he aint that good.

 

Mayweather is a five weight world champion. When Calzaghe beats a heavyweight he can have No. 1 spot. It took him eight years to do anything but defend the WBO belt... I am a Calzaghe fan but no way is he pound for pound No. 1. Too little to late, he should have taken risks earlier, now all we are left with is a guy that can't even throw a punch properly; that because of his exemplary fitness and fast arm flurries outpoints a bad crop of fighters. Joe struggled with a version of Hopkins that was gassed after four rounds, at which point he was winning the fight. None of these things makes a pound for pound elite.

 

Tarver and Taylor have.

Recent Tarver Quote:
"Everyone was mentioned as Calzaghe's potential next opponent but me, the true light-heavyweight world champion. I am the real 'legend killer'. I beat Roy Jones not once but twice. I have also beaten Glen Johnson, Clinton Woods and many more top fighters in the light-heavyweight division. I am the only light-heavyweight champion who currently holds two belts and on my way to unifying the belts this year. I will fight Calzaghe in the US, in the UK or wherever he wants to fight."

Taylor quote from a while back: "Calzaghe is a fight I would love because he's supposed to be the man at 168lbs, and those are the guys I want"


You are right about Dawson and Pavlik, I really want JC to fight either of them, but looks like it will be another pensioner in RJJ.

 

He would get a huge ammount of credit, but it would never have happened; hence the reason why Joe was happy to sit on the WBO for years and not make any fights. First fight in America in his 45 fight, that is odd to say the least, you ask any boxer what the want to do in their career and fight in America is top of the list. This to me says a lot. Joe is an elite fighter. But fighting a load of oldies that have detiorated far more than himself will not augment his legend. Joe would beat Winky but prime Jones and Hopkins? I wouldn't rule it out but i find it quite unlikely. Even if Joe could in theory beat everyone it is still beyond debate that he wasn't confident enough to actually risk it against a live opponent for a long time. The time came and unfortunately it was a little to late.

 

I Have:
1 - Mayweather
2 - Calzaghe
3 - Cotto
4 - Pavlik
Mayweather would have to lose or retire before Calzaghe to be #1.

 

If PAC lost to JMM then JOE LOST To Bhop. "0" on a record doesn't mean anything a great example is Joe.......he has all the talent and skills in the world to beat the best but his resume is made up of mostly B and C level fighters. Joe could have been only 70% as good as he is now and still would have been undefeated if he didn't face his last Two opponents.

Floyd by fighting DLH is a risk! A huge risk...That's like saying that Joe wasn't a risk to bernard or bernard wasn't a risk to Joe. Let's stick with reality homie. You are getting lost and not making much sense.

 

It is a HUGE win for Joe! Bhop is still a great fighter....Now, I'm not saying that Joe beat the best and a prime Bhop. If Joe did win against Bhop in his prime the "W" would be incredible....but this is still a very nice win to say the least.

By Joe stepping up FINALLY I can't knock him. He should have done this YEARS ago but better late than never. Bhop is a bigger challenge than Kessler and Lacy so I think he deserves credit....I will say that a Prime Bhop beats a prime Joe.:yep

 

Underlined is reasonable. Cherrypicking on past prime fighters who are grasping for the bright lights of their hayday is like a vulture picking at the bones of a dying carcas.... better known as Calzaghing the carcas

 

Yo....I honestly see your point. But you are looking at this picture in a very narrow lens.. Hop is past it yet he's probably still the best Lt HW out there or one of the best even at his advanced age.

Beating Bernard is no easy feat so his (Joe's) win against the old Bernard Hopkins is still a valid win. It doesn't carry as much weight as say Bernard Beating a PRime Tito at 160 but it's still a move up in weight for Joe and his first time outside his own hometown.

I'm dissapointed that we probably missed the best Joe C due to his lack of testing himself agasint the best earlier in his career, but what we see from Joe is undeniable. He is a great fighter, he's answered a lot of questions in his last 3 fights or 4 fights.

There are still questions b/c beating Hopkins was expected.....but given how well Hop has preformed over the last 3 yrs its safe to say not EVERYONE can be the 43 yr old Hop...and I'm talking the likes of the top guys in the division now.

 

As I said before, for BHop to be the top of the LHW division, it speaks more of the skill at that division than Bhops longevity. I am also disappointed that the world is just now seeing Calz. I am more disappointed that he hung at 168 for so long with out testing the stars of the era he came up in. B/c he CLEARLY had a easier career than RJJ and Bhop, he has more left in the tank. You also have to realize that when you are in sports past your prime, you don't age as a normal person would. Your skills diminish extremely rapid. the Bhop we saw at 41 is way better than bhop at 43. Why? B/c he is puttin out 100% on his body all the time and that wears it out. Calz win is valid, i agree..What I don't agree is how people are saying "he beat Bhop". He beat an OLD bhop. That's just like Bonds breaking the HR record with steriods. Sure he did it, but he had some advantages therefore gets an asterick. If they put Calz SD Bhop*... then I'm fine with the whole thing.