Joe Calzaghe paper champ at Lt Hw

ko dismantles himself, with proof:

According to ko artist Dariusz M was the linear champion after beating Hill:

This means that he ignores the Ring championships lineage which started with Jones

Dariusz would lose to Gonzalez, who would lose to Erdei, which made Erdei the man when Calzaghe moved up.

ko artist now decides to ignore the Daruisz lineage and now proclaims the Ring lineage legit

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Thanks a lot Knockout Artist, it is great to receive plaudits from one of the highest rated posters on these boards

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As long as morons like Dino and Atlanta exist, there will always be people like us to dismantle their poorly constructed arguments.

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No worries pal, have a good day :good

I don't really go off the whole 'lineal' title anyway, I actually agree with you when you said it's a nice concept that doesn't work in reality

But yes for a time after beating Virgil Hill, Darius was the number 1 LHW in the world. Then after a time, Jones was clearly the better fighter and beat better opposition whilst they reigned at the same time. Meaning Darius was number 1 for some time, then Jones was number 1, certainly at the start of last decade, and when he beat Tarver in 2003 Jones was clearly the LHW Champ.

But I was right in that if Jones wanted to be LHW Champ when he moved up, then he should have fought Darius. Missing that fight for whatever reason is a knock against Jones' LHW reign. After some time though Jones became universally regarded as the number 1 LHW, and beating Tarver cemented his reign as they were number 1 and 2.

If you want to work of the Hill - Darius - Gonzalez - Erdei -

Then ok fair enough

I'm working off what I consider right in Hill - Darius - Roy Jones - Tarver - Johnson - Tarver - Hopkins - Calzaghe - Pascal - Hopkins - Dawson

To each their own :good

 

atsch Are you serious ????? Old cherry pickin Slappy an ATG ???
Thats the joke post of the year right there:hi:

 

If you accept beating up a totally shot Jones jr & receiving a gift dec he did NOT deserve against Bernard Hopkins then I guess you do call him 46-0. Sorry I couldnt do that I'd have more pride than youatsch

 

Absolute bull****!!!!!!!! Hopkins offered to go to Wales & rematch Calzaghe in front of his adoring welsh fans. Surely that would be a fantastic way to thank Calzaghe fans for their support No ???
But what did Slappy Joe do he turned his back on his loyal fans & retired amid accusations of Coke sniffing , Ho chasing & drunken binges
Slappy knew if he got in ring with Nard again his 0 he coveted so much was a gonner Go Nard :bbb

 

People from England , Scotland Wales & Northern Ireland are all BRITISH citizens posessing BRITISH passports.

 

Thank you Zod as always you school the masses !:good

 

Most people including the judges think that Calzaghe won, that's the long and short of it. Accept it. Also how does the Roy fight not count as a win?

Joe beat Bernard once at Bernard's weight on Bernard's turf. A rematch in Wales would have yielded Calzaghe home advantage meaning that he'll win again but it'll just be by a wider margin. Joe already was gonna fight Roy and then retire so anything Bernard said don't matter. As for the coke and other stuff his private life don't matter when it comes to his career and all props to him he got off that ****, so it don't matter.

Irrelevant, you don't need a passport to travel around the EU but that's not one country either. As I said earlier they all have different cultures, traditions and even currency although they're interchangable. On a macro scale you can lump them together if you're a moron. On a micro scale different countries.

Now then stop your trolling before you get embarrassed some more

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Dm might have held the linear title but it wasn't long before Jones was considered the best lhw out there and in todays climate that's much more relevant to the big picture.

Joe wasn't ever a paper champ at lhw and after beating Mitchell he was never a paper champ at smw.

 

Yeah. Still its a relevant notion in an historical context instead of using highly subjective divisional rankings.

 

OMG, Calzaghe is a world traveler.atsch

Yes. The fact they share a head of state, a national legislature, they have a common military, a common currency, if you are born in Northern Ireland you are a citizen and recognized as so in the other parts of the country, just as you would if you were born in England or Wales or Scotland, share the same language, and are recognized as a single entity by every official international panel regarding international affairs such as the United Nations. But disregard that because Hooligans dislike each other.

Yes it does. If a nation was to declare war on the UK and invades, can the Wales say "Nope doesn't involve us" and expect the enemy to go "okay" and go around them? No, they would get invaded just like everyone else.

How is that any different than someone living in Wyoming who has a far different world view and dialect than someone living in New York, New York?

Super.

Doesn't make you different countries.

Every state in the United States has a legislature, so what? They're still in the United States.

They're a single nation, hence the Olympics:

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Macro Scale:rofl You mean the scale that matters and doesn't give a **** about your 300 year old butthurt.

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Mind telling me where the Welsh embassy is in the United States, as well as the Scottish one, and the English one? All I can seem to find is the British Embassy. Why is that?

 

Never said that Calzaghe was a world traveller but not exactly the stay at home fighter you make out either. Never forget went to America and beat the man in the division above.

They may share political interests but they are not one country. No-one but you and a few other morons actually believe they are one country.

As for the invasion idea for starters you have no idea what would be possible. Furthermore to declare war on Britain would also be the same as war on the US and the EU due to political alliances you seem to be woefully uneducated on.

The cultures and dialects were established over quite a few centuries and were quite different to each other.

While the fan hatred doesn't make them different countries on the world level, what you fail to grasp in your plebeian rodent brain is that it makes the fight appear to be an away fight because you'll have a hostile crowd and judges that aren't sympathetic if a Welshman fights an Englishman in england.

US state legislature is superseded by federal legislature unless you are a confederate secessionist.

The olympics are the exception rather than the norm hence the TeamGB events but other than athletics, athletes from the UK compete under their nations flag i.e. England, Scotland etc.

Macro scale is not the only one that matters and this is where you fail to grasp the idea that it is on the microscale within these countries that makes the fights in Scotland for the Englishman an away fight. By your logic no American fighter who fights in any part of America against someone based in America is the away fighter.

You still look like a moron

I don't deny that politically and in world politics they collaborate as one country. They are still three separate countries, four if we're talking about N.Ireland.

deal:deal

 

in what sense they are separate? ... the only thing which separates them officially is .... soccer.

.... You are not even descendent by carrying the same blood line, if your parents
were Scottish but they live in London for some time and you were born and live
in London then you are more English than Scottish. Its like mine parents were
born in Callifornia but they moved to new York, so I'm New Yorker ... that
does not apply to these born in Texas ..... neither to North Ireland
... if you were born in N Ireland you are always Irish :yep