Joe Calzaghe : "probably the best 168 pounder there is"

Same thing goes for the cruiserweights and a lot of the lower weight.

 

Excellent post.
You could add how Bute was lucky not to be KOd by Andrade who Kessler beat when undefeated

 

Calzaghe fought and beat Hopkins which was a high risk fight, and also destroyed the top contenders at 168 for years.

168 hasn't been around very long, I can live with him being the best at 168.

 

Why don't you just type 'I am a *****'? much less words to tax your little brain with.

 

LOL!!

Who the fuk is John David "Action" Jackson, and who the fuk gives a **** about the opinion of this nobody's trainer?

LMBAO!!!

 

1. 10 mil vs 5mil

2. Beating the MW champ who was undefeated would add more to his legacy than the WASHED UP RJJ.

I Dont think Cal was scared, but he took the easier rout and beat up on RJJ instead of fighting the Young Undefeated Middleweight champ who Beat JT's ass bad 2x!

 

I'm sure you could. The problem is he's not. RJJ would clown Calzaghe, and I do mean CLOWN. Toney would totally ignore his slaps and counter him into bolivion. There's a reason Calslappy stayed safely on his side of the pond until the ATG Americans got geriatric.

 

Hey Bernie bellend, Get your facts right.
When was Calzaghe meant to fight Toney? Toney was a CW before Calzaghe ever won a SMW world title atsch. Toney isnt he the guy who couldnt beat S Williams . Thought so.
Toney and Jones are proven cheats.
Calzaghe was willing to go to America, Hopkins backed out and Jones didnt want to know, but also remember Jones was fighting at HW before Calzaghe even beat B Mitchell.
When Calzaghe did fight Jones, it was Jones who finished looking the more clowned fighter of the 2 :smoke

 

He should have Fought Pavlik!

 

Dude, Toney was a cruiser before Calzaghe picked up any title. But I suppose Joe is a ducker because he did not move up :silly

The woulda/coulda/shoulda amounts to nothing. 46-0. There is no blueprint

 

Who you fight is more importent then how they fight, but anyway, what style do you think he missed out?

Brawler: Lacy should do.

Orthodox: Kessler, obviously.

Counterpuncher: Hopkins.

Awkward: Sakio Bika.

So what is lacking?

 

If you give Joe any credit for beating that version RJJ you are in love with Joe and biased, the version that he beat would be kod easy by Froch or Ward(not saying they are better than Joe), dont tell me Joe has bad hands well RJJ has a worst chin specially by the time they fought.

 

Peope like to point out that Jones was shot. But why was he? He was only a couple of years older. Two reasons springs to mind.

1. Unike Hopkins the worshipped Roy Jones never learnt to box properly.

2. Unlike Calzaghe the worshipped Roy Jones was not the type who tried harder when he faced hardship. He simply lacks heart.

Roy Jones became so shot so early due to shortcomings, unilke boxer as Calzaghe and Hopkins :smoke

 

How have I been biased. Roy had only lost to the 2 fighters who became the top LHWs and pushed the then Ring champ Tarver in their 3rd fight.
Roy said it took his body a long time to adjust back to LHW.
Roy was coming off of 3 wins, one of which was a fighter that many claim as Hopkins best victory in Trinidad.
For Roy that was so shot consider that in his last fight he was ahead on one card before being stopped against a fighter that many think was robbed against the WBO CW champ.
Also consider that Jones was unlucky not to have scored a KO victory over now Ring LHW champ Hopkins, as Hopkins went down from a legal shot and was lucky to get away with pretending the punch was illegal.
AnotherFan below is correct in what he writes but look at the notes at the bottom of the page. When Calzaghe and Jones fought, it was considered a good match up, bigger than Hopkins vs Pavlik

Good post :good

Lets remember that Jones, Calzaghe was viewed as a bigger better fight than Hopkins, Pavlik and many predicted Jones to win
Bet you didnt disagree with all these so called experts before the fight
Hindsight is one thing, but look at the facts, the Ring LHW champ beat The Ring #6 in a fight many expected him to lose. It was a big fight at the time but now Calzaghe clearly won, they say Jones was shot

Bernard Hopkins- Former two-division world champion
Fought Joe Calzaghe on April 19, 2008 and lost by split decision
Fought Roy Jones Jr. May 22, 1993 and lost by unanimous decision

“Jones by unanimous decision based on his speed and power.”

Lennox Lewis- Former heavyweight champion
"Jones has unbelievable speed and Calzaghe's never fought anyone like him. Jones likes it when his opponent comes to him and unfortunately for Calzaghe, that's exactly what he does; comes to his opponent and is right in their face. I pick Jones on points, but I think it’ll be a very close fight."

Jeff Lacy- Former IBF super middleweight champion
Fought Joe Calzaghe March 4, 2006 and lost by unanimous decision

“It’s going to be a hard fight to pick. If Jones doesn't stay on the ropes and give Calzaghe angles and lots of movement I'm going to go with Jones by decision. Roy can't stay on the ropes and give Joe the chance to throw his slapping punches. This is a great fight for Jones to win and setup a big money fight again with Hopkins!”

Glen Johnson- Former IBF, IBO and Ring Magazine light heavyweight champion
Fought Roy Jones September 25, 2004 and won by KO in 9th round

“Roy Jones will win. I believe Calzaghe fights an amateur style. He throws a lot of slappy punches. Roy throws much more meaningful punches. In general, Calzaghe will throw more punches than Roy, but Roy’s will be harder hitting. Unless the judges are blind, they will see that the harder punches make Jones the winner. They should see that Roy Jones’ hard-hitting punches make the difference.”

Vernon Forrest - WBC welterweight champion
“Roy Jones is still the best fighter in my era and still arguably one of the best fighters period. Roy with his speed can match Calzaghe, and he has power. So the power and speed is with Roy. Roy by decision.”

Paulie Malignaggi- Former IBF junior welterweight champion.

"It's a hard fight to pick. I thought Calzaghe at first because, but maybe he's too much for Roy right now. But based on what Joe just said about the three Brits beating the three Americans (Calzaghe-Jones, Hatton-Malignaggi, Haye-Barrett), I'm pulling Roy home.....Jones by decision."

Winky Wright- Former world junior middleweight champion

“I think Roy is going to win. I think that his punches are going to be sharper than Calzaghe’s and I think that Roy is a harder puncher. I think it might go all 12 rounds, but if somebody gets stopped I think its Calzaghe late in the fight.”

Dan Rafael- ESPN.com

“Although Calzaghe is the favorite, I think Jones' style and speed -- he's still fast -- are going to give him problems. I think it will be a tough, close fight but I'm going with the upset special. I like Jones to pull it out on a close decision.”

Gordon Marino- Wall Street Journal

”Jones over Calzaghe. This is a fascinating fight. Jones is still quick and with his awkward style and dangerous punching power is able to freeze very active opponents like Calzaghe. I'm picking Jones by a decision.”

Tim Smith- New York Daily News

“Roy Jones has good power and I think that will offset the volume of punches that Calzaghe throws. Calzaghe has a good chin so I don't see him getting knocked out. I like Jones in a decision.”

Franklin McNeil- Newark Star Ledger
“On paper, Calzaghe should not have much difficulty getting by Jones. Calzaghe is a southpaw, and Jones has had his most difficult outings against non-orthodox fighters. And though each man has quite a few miles on his tires, Jones has logged a bit more. The physical edge goes to Calzaghe, but stylistically Jones’ constant movement could prove to be beneficial. If Jones can control the pace, make Calzaghe miss, score with counter shots and his stamina holds up, he will win. Jones wins by decision.”

Bobby Cassidy- Newsday
“I like Roy Jones in the 11th round TKO. Calzaghe does not have the power to keep Jones honest. I think by the second half of the fight Jones will be picking him a part. Calzaghe looked so good against Hopkins because Hopkins didn't have the firepower to slow him down. But Jones has both speed and power. In other fights, Calzaghe has been able to adjust to one of those assets; he won't be able to adjust to both, especially from a fighter like Jones.”

There are were more predictions for Jones against Calzaghe, that picked Jones as a winner.
Although there were many that also picked for Calzaghe the poll on Bunces boxing was said 60% in favour of Jones.


Enjoy

 

jones wasnt shot well thats enough to say you are biased, he was at best 10% of what he used to be at his best, 99% of people know and agree that he was shot and its a fact but i guess Joe fans believe he beat the best RJJ, keep dreaming.
And what the **** are you talking about he was ahead against Lebedev??? he was not, check scorecard before you try to build this faded Jones up!