Joe Calzaghe retired 46-0 (32) in 2008. Get over it. Fans & haters; quit trolling!

HEADBANGER keep writing your essays, he still isnt the best from Great Britain :hi: not to go any further than that.
Even his amateur career was funny didnt fight at any major tournament lol he ducked even as amateur :rofl

 

I was never a fan I thought he retired to avoid fighting k pavlik

 

I've never stated he was and this topic was never about that in the 1st place atsch

Calzaghe is a 3 weight ABA champion, hardly a bad amateur career :huh

BTW, in future you refer to me as 'Sir Head' :deal

 

you can say all of this nonsense, but meanwhile, jones, toney and hopkins have the credentials to back up what ring magazine and HBO had to say about them. does Joe C? from a pure oppositional standpoint? achievements across weight divisions?

 

:rofl

Only in America :rofl

 

Domestic tournament isnt major, world championship Olympic games, nothing :roflatsch

 

probably yes to both, since calzaghe like to fuk over old men and women.

 

1 - what I said is fact :deal

2 - ring comic and HBO comedy channel - are you for real

3 - I'm more interested in facts and PED testing not what some bullshiting propaganda tool uses to brainwash gullable, delusional, american ham n eggers :rofl

4 - do you really think that calzaghe wouldn't beat bog-standard fighters like sanderline williams, mercado, griffin, tiberi, clinton mitchell, pascal, glen Johnson, tarver, thadzi :rofl

5 - Heres a tip for you, get your silly head from outta your fartpiece, get yourself down to your nearerst Team Elite lecture and seminar and actually learn something about the sport of boxing you fart sauce swilling dork

 

Yeah but there would have to be a beating taking place in order to use the word beating, and an actual adaptation to have taken place in order to say he adapted. Case in point, in the tenth round or whatever late round that was where Hopkins got the breather for the slap to the nuts. After action resumed, he took that round clearly. Suggesting that his lowered offense, and effectiveness was more due to not being in total fitness for the fight, then anything Calzaghe had done. Calzaghe hadn't done a damn thing through six rounds so why would Hopkins gas unless something else was amiss? He didn't move any more than he usually does. He didn't throw anymore than he usually does, he damn sure didn't get hit with hardly anything through six either to the head or body.

 

HEADBANGER,

There are a number of reasons why Joe Calzaghe is ESB's least favourite son.

All roads hardly ever lead to Calzaghe, hardly any major victory ever leads back to Joe, he is the bottom of the ESB food chain, (much like the Team ****** Corporation) he was 46-0 and there was always a blueprint on how to beat him. But silly billy patients who are strapped to their beds for 23 hours a day, are always going to love him.

It's clear that the majority of Calzaghe lovers on ESB, clearly never saw Roy or Toney fight in their prime, and only started watching boxing in 2006. Since Joe's victory over Lacy, his fans have lost touch with reality and they believe he was better than Ray Robinson and Muhammad Ali, because he never lost. A typical fan would believe that Joe could in fact have beaten Godzilla, because he could adapt to any style, and he had a fantastic engine, which would have allowed him to slap Godzilla down to size, with over 1000 slaps per round.

When Hopkins and Jones were unifying at 160 and 175, Joe was fighting in one of the weakest divisions in boxing.

While the likes of Jones, Hopkins and Toney were clowning fighters such as Tito, Ruiz and Jirov, Joe was fighting Veit, Ashira, and Sobot.

While the likes of Jones, Hopkins and Toney were testing themselves against good fighters, Joe was laying on the canvas after a knockdown by Sugar Ray Salem, and struggling with Robin Reid.

When the likes of Jones, Hopkins and Toney were relaxing on their lawn chairs after a hard days training, Joe was sprinting out of his door after realising that the mailman had dropped off his new passport that his Mum had ordered him.

While the likes of Jones, Hopkins and Toney were trash talking and creating excitement fighting other great fighters, Joe was washing Frank W's car for a bit of extra pocket money, until a huge WBO fight got made.

While the likes of Hopkins were fighting in front of millions, Joe was trying to put a show on at the local ice rink.

When Jones, Hopkins and Toney were fighting other good fighters in their own Country, Joe was pretending to find his his lost passport, even though he'd thrown it away.

When the dust had settled at 175, and Hopkins had lost twice to Taylor, and was 43, Calzaghe obtained a new passport, miraculously overcame his fear of flying, and finally decided to move up in weight, even though he'd been starving himself to make 168 for 4 years. Even though his own Father thought that he'd lost, and he scraped the win by the skin of his teeth, he proclaimed himself as "The legend Killer" then made it clear that he didn't do rematches.

When Roy was 9 weeks from being 40, and it was more than 4 years after Tarver and Johnson had knocked him out, Joe finally had the balls to fight the man he'd hid from all of his career, and who he'd dismissed twice leading up to the fight. Even though many experts had Joe to win, due to the fact that Roy hadn't won at elite level for 5 years, Joe thought he was actually in the ring with the 1994 James Toney version of Roy.

While Jones and Toney continue to fight like the proud warriors that they are, Joe dances badly on tv and sniffs lines of coke.

Lets's be honest, there's nothing much to love. His ugly slapping style, his reluctance to fight the best, his reluctance to leave Frank, his fruitcake fans trying to convince people he'd have troubled a prime Roy, even though he struggled with Reid.

Mentally challenged patients at the Newbridge nut house are always going to love him, and that will never change. The team ******s will continue to receive their medication, and all roads will continue to not lead back to Calslappy.

 

He dropped a still very good and iron clad chinned warrior in eubank
The fight wasn't even close

Don't tell me he didn't have power, he did

He's better than bhop but don't compare him to jones and toney

They would beat any middleweight in history

I would place him right behind those two

Calzaghes lack of legacy fighters in their prime hurts his resume, his skills were top notch though

 

you are reversing the evidence, tennis.

sure joe dropped eubank, but that was a one off, with eubank at his weakest in his career, his end fight besides the cruiserweight failed stab.

the rest of the evidence dictates that joe had no ko stoppages. its overwelhming evidence too, not just a little evidence of biased welsh referee stoppages after a few slaps that don't even get noticed by the fat old ref when they land on him. basically nothing fights that are worthless nd probably setup if they cant hurt a fat balding old ref how can they hurt the opponent.

is actual skills almost always yield a low accuracy - that's not a result of high skill - higher skill makes you land more often, not less often.


in essence, joe was an awkward southpaw with outstanding stamina, and good enough reflexes and chin to soak up punishment at national level up to euro level long enough to beat lesser fighters, but that was his peak ability as far as the evidence dictates. there is nothing highly skilful in soaking up punishment better than your opponent, but its a good asset to have,.he was a really good tough athlete, but high skill? no way - throwing and missing more than your best opposition isn't great skill, period, its LESSER skill than them. sure he was better than cheating ottke and about on par with reid - this is what the evidence dictates. but lets not invent **** about great skill when his skills were limited and always lesser than his best opposition.

 

Well he was better than Hopkins, that's for sure.

Different styles leave different impressions to different people. I agree that he wasn't some kind of power puncher who would take out the opponents in the impressive fashion, nor he was a defensive master who would demonstrate a boxing clinic ala Rigondeaux.

What made him so difficult to comprehend for his opponents was his style, which was unique and unusual. He would usually control the distance and his very high punch output would be too much for his opponents to deal with. He also had a good chin which allowed him to get hit at the times during the exchanges and not back down. One of his biggest qualities was the ability to adapt. For example view his fights against Kessler and Hopkins. Two completely different styles he encountered there. Both caused him problems early and he was able to figure out what to do in order to win. He found the ideal distance against Kessler, started quickly backing out of Kessler's mid distance to evade the dangerous exchanges and took the fight over. Against Hopkins, he again had the problems early, Hopkins even knocked him down. Calzaghe started clearly outworking him, which forced Hopkins to for the exchanges and each time Joe would land more. There were also a couple of other fights where he demonstrated his abilities to make adjustments. At the end of the day, nobody could figure him out and he retired undefeated at the end.

 

Better than Hopkins? yet he had to get a gift decision over a guy who brought a six round gas tank into the ring.

 

this is bull,. he didn't figure them out. Kessler gassed thru poor training after his bad hand and Hopkins gassed being p43. if you watch the robin redi fight he does the same thing, soaking it up hoing for reid to slow, but reid wasn't gassing and joe was lucky to not lose that one. fortunately joe went straight back to fighting a series of **** opponents after his mistake in picking robin.


all he did is soak it up whilst being outboxed early and then he threw in volume with lower acuracy only when they stopped throwing or reduced their output. this is not figuring someone out, its using the exactly the same plan against both, a desperate bid to outland a slowing but previously superior opponent through low quality high volume blows. this is taking nothing away from those victories, he edged out 43 year old bhop definitely, and beat Kessler at home fair and square like froch did, and faced up to champion robin reid, though arguably losing.

the only thing the rest of his opponents found difficult to comprehend was why a pretty good opponent like calzaghe was picking such consistently weak opponents to defend against. **** guys like king of 4-6 rounders veit and finished ones like retiring woodhall must have been incredulous that they were being picked for title defences. And these were some of Joes best opponents - ! - fcuk me this said a lot for the other ones.