Joe Calzaghe retired 46-0 (32) in 2008. Get over it. Fans & haters; quit trolling!

Hatton and Froch are probably much more respected than Calzaghe is.

Calzaghe beat Hopkins by SD, so what?

Bowe beat Holyfield. Does anyone believe Bowe will go down greater than Evander?

 

Brighton bomber,

You make it sound so simple.


The Benn fight was hard to make in 95, because the Levin Brothers wouldn't sign Roy over to King.

Gerald only had the ONE fight at SMW, which was his tragic one with Benn.

Liles reportedly turned down his biggest pay day to fight Roy, which resulted in his manager walking out on him.

Eubank did not want Roy, and was in no position to fight him.

Collins wanted Roy, but only held the lightly regarded WBO belt.

McCallum was 39, and had obviously seen better days. But that was Roy's first fight at the weight. He didn't dodge Collins to specifically fight McCallum. He swerved Collins to fight at a new weight. He couldn't unify at SMW, so he took on a new challenge.

Would you have given him credit for beating Collins?

He didn't fight Dariusz M, because NEITHER of them would travel.

After Ruiz, a fight with Evander was almost made, until King pissed of Evander, and he instead fought Toney, for less money, with no title at stake. He made the choice out of principle.

Roy ended up taking the Tarver fight, for two reasons.

1. Tarver had goaded him all throughout 2003, even crashing the post Ruiz press conference.

2. Dropping back from HW and reclaiming the LHW titles, made history.

By all accounts, his father intervened, and it brought them back together as a family. It was the first time they'd spoken properly in six years.

But would you have given him credit for beating that version of Douglas?

He was in poor shape, and was only fighting for the money.

I think fighting Ruiz at 34, after 50 fights, was a bigger risk than fighting that version of Douglas at 29.

That's my honest opinion.

A guy that chose the path of least resistance, wouldn't have done the following:


Offered Liles his biggest purse to date.

Sent his advisor to meet with Kerry Davis - VP for HBO, to try and negotiate with Dariusz M's manager, to make the fight in the U.S.

Moved up to HW at 34.

Negotiated with Holyfield after Ruiz.

Lost muscle to move back down to LHW at almost 35, to fight a hungry southpaw, who posed stylistic problems.

Fought Tarver for a third time, without a tune up, after suffering two crushing defeats.

Fought Calzaghe 9 weeks shy of his 40th birthday.

Fought Hopkins at 41.

Fought Lebedev at 42, out of shape due to a bad knee, after been out of action for a year.

Still be fighting today, trying to win a legitimate CW title at almost 46.


The above actions, are not the actions of a man who has trodden the path of least resistance.


Also, the reason why he was labelled 'Reluctant Roy' was because most people weren't aware of what was happening behind the scenes, and because he was fighting decent guys, but was beating them with so much ease, that it gave the impression that they were absolute nobodies.


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Again, actions speak louder than words.

 

Exactly!

Let's not pretend that there were a big queue of LHW's all eager to fight Ruiz.

 

Great post, I agree entirely.


The Pavlik situation was strange.

Because he was happy to tell the media that Pavlik had done nothing to warrant a fight.

Yet General Zod showed me a link a few years ago, where Joe had also told the media, that they'd actually offered Pavlik a fight a few years earlier, which was apparently turned down.

So how the hell does that make any sense?

Pavlik obviously had no pedigree at SMW or LHW, but he was immensely popular at the time.

I'm sure that had Joe really wanted to, he could have fought him at a catchweight like Hopkins, and taken the same amount of credit for toying with him.


Every fighter has the right to decide when it's time to retire, and you've got to respect their decision.

But when Joe retired in 2008, he said there was nothing left to accomplish, even though an obvious fight with Dawson would have been great.


IMHO, he should have taken the Roy fight as a swan song after Pavlik and/or Dawson, and not instead of, especially seeing as what he'd said about Roy, just prior to facing him.


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Lol, was Joe under the influence when he made these statements?



Have you ever had a conversation with a coke head?

 

That's one stupid statement. Why would it be better for Roy to wait till Joe got older when Roy is older than him? If i made a video saying that Kovalev ducked me, would that make it the truth?

 

Where's Bailey?

Ha!

 

Never heard of this before.

 

Looks like the anti-calzaghe group therapy meeting is in session. We know he beat your idols but that was years ago...you can let go of the pain already.:rofl

Some guys are trying to say Froch is better hahaha. Froch is a great fighter but he is a few levels below Calzaghe in skill and talent. He lost to a faded Calzaghe leftover(that Joe beat when he was 35 and was undefeated in his prime) and barely beat him the second time when the leftover was completely shot. Guys like Froch and Ward wouldn't dare go up to LHW and take on the #1 guy like Joe did.


46-0 undefeated, undisputed SMW world champion, rated #1 alltime by boxrec, lineal LHW champion, defeated 10 world champions
and 1st ballot IBHOFamer. Now put that in your pipe and smoke it :hat

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It appears that you haven't replied to ANY of my comments on post 45.

How strange.

 

I was in the barbers and there was a magazine laying there so i read it, it had an interview with Calzaghe in there.

I **** you not, he said he could beat Tyson

 

Every win Hopkins gets just makes Calzaghe greater.

The blown up, bloated, broken handed half motivated Calzaghe fighting in Hopkins backyard at his best weight won 9 rounds with a corrupt ref and judges. Unfortunately Joe was avoided throughout his career but everytime a top fighter stepped up Joe manhandled them.

Joe's closest fight was with a broken hand against a highly motivated Robin Reid and he won that convincingly too. There has been a blue print to beat Mayweather a few times but Joe is truly the only fighter of which there is no blueprint, beating slickters, counter punchers, offensive fighters, speedsters, he has beat every style of fighter there is and Hopkins career is really more a continuation of Calzaghes legacy.