Joe Calzaghe retired 46-0 (32) in 2008. Get over it. Fans & haters; quit trolling!

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  1. bailey

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  2. bailey

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    If you are going to but in, please answer the questions that were asked and stop ducking. Thanks
     
  3. bailey

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    Indeed. eubank was 31 and had only lost twice in over 40 fights and to only 1 fighter where one was debateable and the other a SD
     
  4. THE BLADE 2

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    Well do your homework.

    Calzaghe only fough the best late in his career.Before it was a lot of defenses against WBO bums in his country.

    Joe never beat a great fighter at SMW.Therefore it does not feel right to have him No1
     
  5. bailey

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    Looks a bit of a mess of a post. I will come back to it.
    In the meantime. Here is an old post for you to mull over. It shows how off you are


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    Calzaghe beat 3 undefeated fighters who had or went on to claim a SMW title.
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    1. Someone tell me which top undefeated fighters Ward has beaten?
    2. Tell me which top undefeated world champs Ward has fought?


    Lets read the answers
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    Andre Ward............VS.............Joe Calzaghe
    Froch.....................................Kessler
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    (Kessler beat Froch)
    Kessler...................................Eubank
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    Dawson..................................Lacy (Lacy a proven SMW and winner of 5 SMW title fights. Dawson no pedigree at all at SMW)
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    Abraham.................................Mitchell (Mitchell a 2 time SMW champ who had never been clearly beaten, only lost by debateable SD in Germany to Ottke, had KOd long time SMW champ Liles, beaten a future SMW champ twice, compared to AA who had done nothing at SMW)
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    Bika.......................................Brewer (Bikas best win became Manfredo, Brewer had beaten H Graham and was a SMW champ)
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    (Bika was a Calzaghe left over at that time and had been out of the ring bar less than a round for a while)
    Green.....................................Woodhall (Woodhall a SMW champ, who had beaten a reigning SMW champ, a world rated former champ, a future SMW champ and Branco a world rated SMW who became WBA LHW champ, who at SMW beat R Reid and G Johnson who when old and shot KOd Green)
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    Miranda...................................Bika (Bika now a top 5 SMW had drawn with 3 time SMW champ Beyer)
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    Buchanan (?????)......................Sheika
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    (Sheika was coming off a win over G Johnson and was a top 10 SMW at the time)
    Camou (?????)..........................Veit (Veit a SMW title holder who had a fair resume, better than at least 2 of the current top 5 SMWs)
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    Then include the
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    win and then the other top 10 SMWs and its clear Calzaghe is well ahead. I could have put
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    ahead of Green, Camou, Miranda, Buchanon

    Very clear but nobody will have a sensible answer to say otherwise, it will just be a lame Faileys losing it answer when they cant debate against

    Somebody tell me how Ward has done more than that.



    Nobody can counter the above or answer the questions. In fact they hide from the questions :lol:
     
  6. bailey

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    I agree with most of that and I think Kessler has a greater resume with wins over Beyer, Froch, Siaca, Mundine, Sartison to name a few
     
  7. THE BLADE 2

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    That is some biased ****.lacey a better win than dawson lol
     
  8. bailey

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    so you cant answer then. :lol::patsch
    Who did he avoid at SMW that he was supposed to face.

    Also Calzaghe became champ at the very end of 97.
    Look at the Rings 98 rating

    You missed 98


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    Calzaghe beat the fighter that beat the #1, beat #3 Woodhall, #4 Ottke wouldnt fight him which Ottkes, he beat #5 Brewer, beat #6 Reid and #7 Tate was scheduled to meet Calzaghe but pulled out and retired instead, which is where Pudwill came in as a late sub.
     
  9. bailey

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    What SMW pedigree did Dawson have?
     
  10. THE BLADE 2

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    Lacey was a paper champ.Dawson was the legimate champ at LHW, RInG magazine
     
  11. THE BLADE 2

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    Answer my question: what great fighter did Calzaghe beat?
     
  12. THE BLADE 2

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    Your logic is insulting, what pedigree Leonard had at middleweight when he was fighting Hagler??

    Do not evade my question
     
  13. Loudon

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    I agree.

    I honestly have no issue with anyone saying that Joe was the best, based on accomplishments.

    But go and look at Roy at 25/26.

    He barely lost rounds.

    He made fighters look like nobodies.

    He played basketball, and then cruised past Eric Lucas.

    He was an absolute beast at the weight.

    You wouldn't favour anybody over him at SMW.
     
  14. Loudon

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    I'm not answering your ridiculous questions.

    I asked you to reread your posts, before replying.

    It's clear to everyone what you were implying.

    Obviously, you have no comeback to what I've said regarding Eubank.
     
  15. Loudon

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    Right.

    And what about all of the other facts that I've mentioned?

    Are you just going to ignore them?