That was seven years ago. He was inducted last year into the I.B.H.O.F. His career is decidedly over, and has been for the better part of a decade. Threads about him, going forward, belong in the Classic forum. Any legitimate threads about him (for instance, h2h fantasy match-ups) will be moved there accordingly. Purely trolling - either pro-Joe or anti-Joe - ones are going to be merged here to die.