Joe Calzaghe ring i.q.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/boxing/3834557.stm
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=2466229

the hopkins career high payday story in 2002 is complete BS. no one in america knew anything about joe except hard core boxing fans. they weren't going to make any money here. it's just as BS as calzaghe beating chris byrd as an amateur. it didn't happen.

it's a shame ottke and joe didn't fight in the late 90s, early 2000s but i don't think interest was there from either party. they both had a belt, stayed at home, stayed undefeated and collected decent paychecks. it's disappointing but from the business side of things i can't say i blame them.

 

It's not bull****, Hopkins turned down 3 mil to fight Joe in Vegas in 2002, and fought Morrade Hakkar for 300k instead, who the **** was Hakkar!? Kmac if you're going to ignore facts, then don't bother responding.

 

I kinda think you have it reversed. Prime undefeated Kessler, Old as shite Bhop, Chris ( i was gonna move up in weight, fought at short notice, then moved up 2 weightclasses and only fought 2 more times) Eubanks, and Jeff (I should have left my over hyped ass home)Lacy, where only names (save Kessler) when he fought them. Carl had the Balls to fight guys in their primes . . . don't like the guy but it is admirable.

 

ESB is not as bad as some people like to make it out to be, but this was really a poor argumentation.

Frochs resume can never compete with Calzaghe since he lost against Kessler.

The whole idea that you could defeat Calzaghe by walking through his punches is naive. His power was only avarage, but enough to hurt and back up very tough opponents.

 

Look at what Hopkins has done since Calzaghe. When is this 'old' and 'washed-up' crap going to stop? Obviously Hopkins' achievements don't suit your agenda.

 

What have the Johnson articles got to do with Calzaghe/Hopkins 2002/03?

It is well known that Hopkins agreed to fight Joe in 2002 then backed out. Frank and Showtime tried to make Calzaghe/Hopkins for years. There is footage on YouTube of Bernard admitting this.

Lots of Joe's fights were shown on Showtime. Ken Hershman was even ringside for Mario Veit. I'm not sure of Ken's role at Showtime at that time.

 

What? English do u speak it?!!

 

hopkins turned down a three fight deal with showtime and don king in 2002. joe would have been the second of those fights. bhop backed out of that deal. the 3 million dollars number is something that came from the calzaghe side. it wasn't just a fight with joe only that was being proposed. this is what i'm refering to.
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=3094912

hopkins backing out of this deal is the best thing that could have happened to calzaghe. during this point of their careers, joe would have been a heavy underdog.

 

the johnson articles were referring to another poster asking who joe should have fought. yes, some of joe's fights were on showtime in the states but he generated little to no interest here. joe's fight vs kessler that was on hbo was the lowest rated prime-time fight in the history of hbo world championship boxing.
http://boxrec.com/media/index.php?title=Fight:1225214

 

Calzaghe's ring I.Q. = GENIUS

 

So basically the article states that Hopkins backed out of a 3 fight deal which would have netted him a great deal of money, for no reason stated. Probably because he had to face Calzaghe, who would have given him fits. Instead Bernard chose to fight a bum in Hakkar for peanuts, fight a blown up WW in De La Hoya, before sealing the deal on his legendary trilogy with Robert Allan

Joe would have gone to America, beat him, taken his fanbase and that's why Bernard didn't want the fight. Joe gets stick from the likes of you and others for not fighting the likes of Hopkins earlier in his career, if he got that mega fight, he it would have raised his profile, and given him a great shot at superstardom, he would have beaten Bernard, his style will always give BHop fits. If you look at Hopkins career, when he's faced a fast 2 handed fighter at a fair weight he's struggled badly and lost.

All your articles proved was that Joe had alot of injury problems in his career. Johnson at SMW is a journeyman, nothing more! It's like giving Pacquiao stick for not fighting Matthew Hatton! What has Johnson achieved at SMW!?

Also, if you actually knew much about what you were commenting on (which it's obvious you don't), you'd know that Calzaghe agreed to fight the winner of Johnson-Sheika, guess what, he Sheika won, Joe fought and beat Sheika. He agreed to fight Johnson if he beat Clinton Woods, Joe was even ringside, and guess what, Johnson lost atsch

If Glen Johnson is the best you can come up with to my original question, then you need to try much harder :roflatsch

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/3163285.stm

So you've got Calzaghe willing to travel to America to fight Hopkins, and willing to travel to Germany to fight Ottke. He wanted to make the big fights, and was willing to travel, and these guys wouldn't fight him. Yet clowns like you and powerpuncher come on here and talk rubbish about subjects you clearly know nothing on.

 

And he still managed to get the Hopkins fight afterwards. Anyway, how many fights between two Europeans are screened live on primetime HBO?

All this has nothing to with the fact that Hopkins refused to fight Joe in 2002. At a time when US TV wanted it. That was the original point. It is a fact that lots of people still refuse to accept.

 

Cowardly ducker kmac brutally exposed in front of a global audience of millions :deal

 

great ring IQ..guy adjusted with the best of them