Joe Calzaghe talks about the Ward-Froch fight.

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  1. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    If he beats Bute, Dirrell then moves up beats Hopkins, Dawson then I will say he is greater.
     
  2. Auracle21

    Auracle21 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I mean i dunno how he is gonna get there but i dont see him losing any time soon. Its gonna be exciting.
     
  3. sugarngold

    sugarngold RIDDUM Full Member

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    Right on point. :good
     
  4. Calzaghe was an exciting fighter, great handspeed, fantastic jab (hugely underrated by the glut of moronic Americans on here):dead, always found a way to get the job done. And he did that without once resorting to disgraceful headbutting.:deal

    Calzaghe completely roasts Ward alive.:fire:ko

    Let's face facts you pea-brained bitter Yank tranny queens, he was the best.:deal
     
  5. Auracle21

    Auracle21 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I didnt say he wasnt prime. I meant he is almost at ATG SMW status. And just turned 28 a few weeks back. not 29 yet. Plenty of time for continued greatness.
     
  6. Uncle Rico

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    **** yes.

    Historically, the super middleweight division has been a poor one. It doesn't take much to become the greatest fighter in it. Especially if the person you have to take over is a Joe Calzaghe.

    Ward is young. He only has 24 or so fights to his name. Already he's created a more respectable super middleweight resume than what Calzaghe did in nearly his whole career. And he's just getting started. He still has another four or five years to enjoy his best years. Maybe longer, considering his style. Don't see anyone beating him during this period, either.
     
  7. Sir Koolkid

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    I don't think he's peaked personally. I think i will see more from him. He can get a lot more technical than he has been now. He learns and improves in every fight and that is clear so why say he's reached his limit now. He still will get better.

    Calzaghe's work rate was clearly fine in the hopkins fight and compubox shows that. He never slowed down and his legs were not shot he was using them very well at times and using his angles, those were not shot legs.

    :bartWhat do you mean you ppl?...waiting for dawson

    Calzaghe beat a over the hill eubanks and mitchell is not great are you trying to praise this bum as a great victory, Calzaghe disposed of him in 2 rounds :lol: you seem to like praising bums as you like praising bute the guy hasn't fought anyone in the top 5 he's overrated and ward would destroy the hype job.

    My opinion is ward blocks joe's attacks and use's his legs to avoid a lot of the danger and lowers the work rate of joe's with movement and effective body punching and counters and lands clean shots on the outside like hopkins did and rough's joe up on the inside were joe can not win the fight vs ward with his parrying of punches and his tight defense plus ward's speed would also be a problem for calzaghe as well as calzaghe's speed would be a test for ward. Ward's power is not lethal but without a doubt its respect and that's all it needs to be when in the ring. Ward adapts very well too and will use his

    Hopkins and ward are very close, hopkins said he would never fight ward and praises the youngster highly. Ward is the next hopkins i'm surprised you can't see the similarity in there styles and think hopkins slaughters him.
     
  8. des3995

    des3995 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Beating Bute would be a good start, but wouldn't do it in itself. Dirrell has to make some more noise for it to be a big win. It would be a good win as it stand though. Beatiing Hopkins and Dawson wouldn't really impact his SMW status though. I'd say in order for Ward to surpass Calzaghe as the top smw of all time, he'd have to beat Bute and get 4 or 5 good defenses under his belt.
     
  9. Cafe

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    That would mean though that he cleaned out the division and would be a good defense by itself (Dirrell that is), also I was talking about Calzaghe in general not just SMW.
     
  10. des3995

    des3995 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :good


    I do wonder where the next phase of challenges at smw will come from though. Is it Groves/Anthony Dirrells/Rodriguez? Is it MW's moving up? A la Quillin or the guy in your avi?

    I could see Ward moving up in 2 years if there aren't some big money fights ready to be made.
     
  11. Sir Koolkid

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    calm down kessler is no ATG and he was never a eurobum your making these things up yourself.

    Kessler was picked as one of the top guys to win the super 6 tournament he was always respected.

    He gave calzaghe a good fight and he got respect from that night.

    Ward was the underdog vs kessler so it was more surprising to see him win.

    It really doesn't look like there's anyone out there who can beat ward. I watched bute very hard and i am very confident ward beats him and bute will not be ward's hardest fight to date. Bute has done nothing to earn the props some people get him. Not doing anything while the best in his division battle it out somehow has got him props. He needs to fight froch or direll to get any of my respect. His best win is vs johnson who use to be his sparring partner for years and is a old guy on a losing streak when bute beat him. That's what bute gets criticized for he doesn't challenge himself. Then he has the cheek to act like he deserves a fight with the number 1 guy in his division but what's he done to earn it. Bute's keeps his hands low and would be punished for it and his footwork is robotic and all round skills are not on the same level as ward. Ward would teach they pub fighter a great boxer is. You can look good beating up bums but try that vs the best fighters and see how you look. Same goes for most of these guys with good KO record's once they get to the top the KO's stop.
     
  12. drozzy

    drozzy AERE Full Member

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    Who is?
     
  13. Sir Koolkid

    Sir Koolkid Active Member Full Member

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    Kessler is
     
  14. Imperial1

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    Ward has a loss that's news ..And wasn't Bute floored a couple of times in his career ? Funny you talk about a pair yet Bute has fought no one of note since he won the title in 07 while Ward has unified 2/3rds of the division by winning a tourney that involved the divisions best ..Funny but what the hell are you buying then :lol:
     
  15. Sir Koolkid

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    Boone was his 7th fight and he did win the fight, you still holding that aganst him:lol: he has improved to world class level since then but you can hold that 7 year old fight against him and judge him off that if you like because nothing has changed he's still the same guy from 2005 when he was 21 to 2012 when he's 28. :patsch
    Bute could never expose ward, ward would school him. Bute was counted out in his fight vs andrade but was allowed to continue:lol:

    Talk about ward not leaving Oakland when's bute gone a leave montreal and fight some world class competition:lol: