Joe Calzaghe: The Final Word

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by El Cepillo, Oct 18, 2008.


  1. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    An elite boxer would have laid ALOT more leather on Hopkins.
     
  2. SHOWSHOOTER

    SHOWSHOOTER Active Member Full Member

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    calzaghe is great but not amongst the all time great's.

    the thing that stands joe apart from the rest is his versatility. joe is one of a handfull of fighters who can adjust his style to find an answer to difficult oponents, whether that is going backwards or going forwards.

    the thing that saddens me most is that he is having to prove his critics wrong now, when he is past his sell by date. if joe was 6 or 7 years younger he could of answered every question out there.
     
  3. TFFP

    TFFP Guest

    You want a lot more than the most ever landed on Hopkins?

    Cue lecture on how the punch stats are completely incorrect and what you saw and calculated in your brain whilst watching is infact 100% accurate :-(

    What a joke.
     
  4. sjc

    sjc Active Member Full Member

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    Sticky this thread. For the sanity of esb as a whole.
     
  5. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    I thought there would be more "really objective" people voting "bum" to be honest, given the sheer level of hatred some have for Joe.

    Nice to see most who have voted so far say elite. I haven't voted yet but I'm inclined to agree.
     
  6. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    yeah right, because Hopkins is so weak defensively and easy to hit :-(
     
  7. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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  8. DINAMITA

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    Very Good. Would climb into Great territory if he beats Hopkins decisively in a rematch, or beats Dawson. Sorry, but 3 wins (and Lacy has since proved to be very limited) does not equate to GREATNESS. His resume isn't good enough to be called truly great.

    To say he is 'elite' (ie, higher than great) is ****ing insane.

    The 7 untouchable 'elite' boxers of history are:

    ROBINSON, GREB, LANGFORD, ARMSTRONG, ALI, CHARLES, DURAN.

    Guys like Pep, Fitzsimmons, Louis etc could also be called 'elite' depending on your personal preferences.


    The level below is GREATNESS (Leonard, Monzon, Whitaker, Jones Jr etc).


    Joe Calzaghe cannot be considered on these levels.

    This forum is a nuthouse.
     
  9. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    i admire your optimisim
     
  10. Boro chris

    Boro chris Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Elite. An atg no doubt.
    Slow start to his career but he cranked it up late and has fought a very high level of opposition recently.
    Dosen't always look pretty but has always got the job done.

    On this site any one who praises Joe often gets ridiculed and I'm not entirely sure why.
    Cant be the opposition as thats improoved heavily in recent years.
    His personality isn't exactly charasmatic but you could say that for a number of fighters.
    Might be an american bias towards euros but that would be a bit of a crude generalisation on my part.

    Possibly because in the past he's had some rabid fans (you KNOW who you are!:lol: ) and thats pissed people off.
     
  11. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    he isn't american
     
  12. loko

    loko Active Member Full Member

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    Elite. And undisputed.
     
  13. heehoo

    heehoo TIMEXICAH! Full Member

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    I think he is very good.
     
  14. Boro chris

    Boro chris Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think your definition of elite is a lot stricter than mine. I just think of it as atg. This often the reason posters get into silly arguments when they often have simular opinions.
     
  15. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    :hi: :good :hey