Joe Calzaghe: The Final Word

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by El Cepillo, Oct 18, 2008.


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  1. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    The question is, if he beats Roy then retires, will anyone put him in their top-50 GOAT.

    I'd put him in the forties.
     
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  2. marting

    marting Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You can get ridiculed on this site for not supporting Calzaghe enough.
     
    marting, Oct 20, 2008
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  3. Shaolin Monk

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    Elite
     
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  4. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    85 people out of 126 think Joe is a great or elite boxer. Who would have thought? I guess haters make more noise.
     
    El Cepillo, Oct 20, 2008
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  5. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nope.
     
    Axe, Oct 20, 2008
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  6. DINAMITA

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    So you think All-Time GREAT means ELITE in this case.

    What does GREAT mean then?
     
    DINAMITA, Oct 20, 2008
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  7. DINAMITA

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    No my friend, I'm sorry but it cannot be cured. I myself have the opposite condition, known as 'Non-Fanboy Rational Realism', which means that even though Manny Pacquiao is my favourite current fighter, I am still aware that he is not an elite fighter.

    There is not yet a remedy for your disease. Sorry. :hi:
     
    DINAMITA, Oct 20, 2008
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  8. joecaldragon

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    No my friend, I'm sorry but it cannot be cured. I myself have the opposite condition, known as 'Non-Fanboy Rational Realism', which means that even though Manny Pacquiao is my favourite current fighter, I am still aware that he is not an elite fighter.

    There is not yet a remedy for your disease. Sorry. :hi:

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    :lol: You are a right ******* Pacfan!! I vote GREAT!!
     
    joecaldragon, Oct 20, 2008
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  9. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    Right, but you're one of the guys whose been telling everyone how great Pavlik is for the last four months.
     
    El Cepillo, Oct 21, 2008
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  10. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    :|
     
    san rafael, Oct 21, 2008
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  11. CarlesX7

    CarlesX7 Shit got real! Full Member

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    I must say I found the poll options a bit "confusing".
    When we say "elite fighters in a division" we don't necessarily mean "great fighters", we mean the top dogs of the division.
    So one could argue that "great" is a stronger word than "elite" when it comes to boxers... I don't know.
    Anyway, if elite means "ATG", then hell no Joe is not elite.
     
    CarlesX7, Oct 21, 2008
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  12. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    I'm sorry you got confused. It was a general view, taking into account all Joe's different achivements, what phrase best describes him as a boxer. Does that help?
     
    El Cepillo, Oct 21, 2008
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  13. Monstar

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    when i think of it, it goes like this

    Elite - meaning the Elite of boxing p4p, not just limited to a certain weight class...also someone who's name can be thrown around with the other ATGs of they're particular weight class, or even other p4p ATGs..... or simply ranked, an A+ class fighter
    Great - a fighter who's above your average title holder but not necessarily a p4p top 10 or an ATG... simply ranked an A class fighter... example would be like a Ricky Hatton (at 140 not 147) or a Wladamir Klitcshko, guys like that
    Good - would be a kelly pavlik or joshua clottey....a title holder, one of the best in the division, or if it's a weaker division, THE best in the division....a B to B+ class fighter
    etc....

    but yeah with that said.....i'd say Calz win over hopkins (even if somewhat controversial) took him from a "boxing great" and made him a 'boxing elite' in my book, but i dont think he's a p4p ATG....
     
    Monstar, Oct 21, 2008
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  14. CarlesX7

    CarlesX7 Shit got real! Full Member

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    I'd describe Calzaghe as a special fighter then :D
     
    CarlesX7, Oct 21, 2008
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  15. bigjeff24-7

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    great
     
    bigjeff24-7, Oct 21, 2008
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