Joe Calzaghe "The International Untouchable"

yep he was as a little kid from hammersmith and born there. this makes him English, with both welsh and Italian heritage.

 

:rofl I'm not a hater I'm a realist.

Don't get your boxing knowledge from The Sun paper and you'll be fine on here, son :good

I suspect your trolling

Lets look at other Welsh greats.

If you like numbers you might like this - Jimmy Wilde had way over 100 fights before he was defeated for the first time. He had nearly twice as many KO's as Calzaghe had fights. Only defeated 3 times in a 136 fights. Those defeats being when he was ill or way past his best. Jimmy fought guy's much bigger than himself and Ko'd most of them. He's considered one of the hardest punchers of all time and he was very illusive in the ring.

Freddie Welsh beat prime Benny Leonard who's one of the true ATG's. Welsh had an outstanding record full of serious competition.

Jim Driscoll was EASILY better than Calzaghe and in my opinion could be the greatest Brit if you dont include Bob Fitzsimmons.

Also, Howard Winston was more talented than Calzaghe imo.

You really need to start looking into the resume rather than looking at the 0 and jizzing your pants. On top of that Calzaghe just wasn't as talented as the true greats. He's looked **** against some serious average competition.

I still suspect your trolling so i'll leave it at this

 

clearly you drink too much.

reply when you are sober and the voices have stopped.

 

if we are all being honest, perhaps joe did the right thing in avoiding a mandatory with prime froch - just look what happened to froch against prime grovesy froch won but he got seriously embarrassed and might well have lost. much better to face some 40somethings whom he couldn't outskill but could easily outgass than to get embarrassed and floored by froch, or even beaten up badly.

Now of course froch fans will reply that froch would never voluntarily pretend to fight top level by picking 40somethings because hes not fake like that, and I guess that's true because joe didn't want tough fights anyway and had already gotten use into pissing on his fans by defending against many many nobodies, something froch would never contemplate for 12 rounds nevermind for 12 years. But there is a point at which courage becomes stupidity.

in his mind, joe knew when to take and not take fights in order to remain unbeaten. He knew if he lost his zero losses, he would have little else to show for 14 years except Kessler and lacy and perhaps reid. that could have driven him permanently to his flaws of cocaine abuse and wife cheating/beating. so in retrospect maybe he was wise.

 

Greatest ever British boxer!

 

I'm not on twitter. I get my boxing knowledge from reading and watching old fights. Maybe you should ditch your Calzaghe dvd's and Sun newspaper and try it. It doesnt even come down to opinions. Its just a FACT Calzaghe isn't the greatest British boxer. He's not even close.

 

on pure boxing skills alone hes not top level tbh, compensating for lack of top level skills by throwing twice as many low quality punches that largely miss. IF you got the judges and ref on your side, that doesn't matter.

Apart from the home advantage, What makes Joe a handful isn't his skills but his engine, he can go on forever, and his chin, which lets him soak up shots from superior boxers so he can throw back a greater volume of lower quality shots.

Whislt its true he is relatively cowardly in terms of picking opps, ironically his fear is one of his greatest strengths - he is afraid of losing, so tends to fight at the top of his game and prepare 120%, and wont fight you till he knows hes pretty dead cert to beat you. If you find yourself in the ring with Joe, you know dead certain you are going to have a serious handful of a fight.

 

If he was English you'd spunk all over yourself just by looking at him.

Ward has done nothing to suggest he'd beat Joe. His best win is a Joe leftover.

 

Spot on deal

 

Not true, it took some convincing he could beat Lacy and that was after the fight was signed. Aside from that all fighters go into fights believeing they can win so in their mind its always a cert so null point really.

What home advantage helped that you speak of in such a way it was pivotal in his career? There werent that many controversies throughout.

Also most fighters miss the majority or thier punches....

 

this is my point, only against the two perceived as very decent fighters he faced was he running chicken (though you could possibly add glen Johnson to the list whom he appeared to flee from). Other times its a deliberate choice of perceived weakling.

reams of his tko stoppages look like fakes, with the emphasis on early on in his career.

obviously I mean in comparison to someone else. his % landed figures are always lower versus good boxers, in spite of throwing a good deal more. His workrate is probably an attempt to overcome this low accuracy or a byproduct of trying to throw more than the opponent.

 

Come on seriously? all time greatest british fighter? he had amazing talent and was a joy to watch at times but if he would of fought eubank when he was in his prime eubank would of beaten him quite handily imo and eubank doesn't even make the top 20 ! great yes greatest never

 

atsch I't is a fact.

Your opinions flawed because you have no knowledge on the older/greater era's great fighters.

You should start a thread in the classic forum on the subject :hey