Joe Calzaghe Totally Ruined Jeff Lacy

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Rico Spadafora, Jul 23, 2008.


  1. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    That discussion has been done countless times and is completely bull****. The only 2 fighters you can classify as "great" who Tyson lost to were Holyfield and Tyson, the first Holyfield fight was also competitive till the end. There are many good fighters Tyson fought, Ruddock X2(in his prime and fully focused), Biggs, Williams, Golota, Bruno X2, Berbick, Stewart, Tillman, Spinks, Tubbs, Holmes, Tucker, Thomas, Smith. All those fighters mentioned were very good fighters who would've done really good if they were around right now, saying Tyson is horrible because he lost a few fights he was expected to win is idiotic, the skills Tyson showed in the ring weren't seriously hyped for nothing and if you can't see that then you need to learn some boxing.
     
  2. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Seconded.

    Mike Tyson was a beast, a freak, and I mean that in the best way. He was so fast and so destructive it was unreal. He had incredible head movement, threw in combination, had great footwork and was so good that people looked for ANY sign that someone even slowed him down let alone hurt him.

    Mike Tyson, while Cus D'Amato and Jim Jacobs were still alive (especially Cus), was a destroyer. That Mike Tyson was a force of nature, and could hang with anyone, of any era.

    Sad for Mike, his mind was so tightly wound that when things started to unravel around him his skills and focus diminished faster than Lewis fell after Rahman hit him in South Africa.

    Jeff Lacy seems like a decent guy, and he was a big prospect at one time.

    Mike Tyson was a boxing prodigy, a fistic savant. He is a legend, even if the legend faded much too early.

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    Good stuff, Scar!

    Peace out, Rock!
     
  3. slapsSOgood

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  4. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thanks. Wish I could say it's mine, but it's not. I've seen it in various boxing articles before.

    :thumbsup:good:thumbsup
     
  5. marting

    marting Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If you followed Lacy's career he was always easy to hit. He doesn't jab enough. And for all his power he isn't a good inside fighter and lacks accuracy. This got exposed in a work out with Winky Wright just before the Calzaghe fight.

    Calzaghe then exploited every single weakness that Lacy had and still has not addressed. Now the book is out there for everyone to exploit.
     
  6. David_TheMan

    David_TheMan ESB Sage Full Member

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    I don't see how Calzaghe mentally broke Lacy, when the guy has been digging deep in all of his fights since, to pull out wins. So that "evidence" of breaking him is gone. Physically he is still a beast, but the rotator cuff injury probably is affecting his power.

    I'd say Sheika exposed Lacy, Calzaghe followed the Sheika blueprint and stayed away from his power. Truth is Lacy was always a slugger who had no technique and that continues to this day.

    The only people who try to make Lacy more than what he was is the Calzaghe nut lickers, who try to deify the man for fighting at best C class fighters.
     
  7. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Revisionist history is great. People here were calling Lacy a mini Mike Tyson before the Calzaghe fight. They were talking about how big his muscles were :patsch and how he was going to KO Calzaghe in like 4 rounds.

    What happened was Calzaghe won every second of every round in probably the most lopsided dominating 12 round Unification fight I have seen.

    Lacy is finished and Calzaghe is responsible for that.
     
  8. David_TheMan

    David_TheMan ESB Sage Full Member

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    Revisionist history on your end, people could call him the next Mike all they want, he never fought like Prime Mike.

    He struggled against boxers, always could be hit, and relied solely on his power. People overlooked the flaws because, they love power and KOs. Lacy was never the 2nd coming and like I said before, he was fighting nobodies in a nobody division.
     
  9. ThePlugInBabies

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    yeah of course, nothing to do with the endless streams of dimwits who infested the online boxing community in the buildup to the fight who were convinced lacy would crush calzaghe and who's favourite words were eurobum and exposed. as well as the majority of the boxing media who didn't give calzaghe a snowballs chance in hell.

    revisionist history at it's finest. the reason that win gets so much spotlight is because calzaghe fans had to put up with these morons for several months and their endless talk and that's all it was in the end, talk. paybacks a *****.
     
  10. David_TheMan

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    I'm not one of the people you are talking about so I'm not defending them nor speaking up for them. I am talking about what was always as clear as day to see. If you want to deny what I said fine, but you know deep down it is true.
     
  11. ThePlugInBabies

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    lacy pre calzaghe was a solid fighter with good power and a decent world title holder. nothing more, nothing less. don't make out like it's the calzaghe fans fault that the win got so much hype. if the lacy bandwagon hadn't hyped him as hugely as they did then the reaction to the fight wouldn't have been half as bad.
     
  12. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Dave,

    every nuthugger here was obssessing about Lacy and his muscles like they do with just about evey fighter too bad having a bodybuilder like body has nothing to do with Boxing.

    He was compared to Tyson here by many and many people thought he was going to dispose of Calzaghe in brutal fashion.

    Only AFTER the fight (revisionist history) did people like you come on here and call Lacy a bum or a never was.

    Calzaghe took his manhood and Lacy has yet to look like a decent fighter since.
     
  13. Morrissey

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    Spot on.

    I was really never impressed with him in his fights even before he faced Calzaghe. There was something lacking. I recall watching one of his fights with Reid(?) after my brother told me that Lacy was being hyped as the next Tyson or the next great boxer the world should see, and then, after the fight, I was like :huh ," Is that all?"

    Watching him pre-Calzaghe days is not like watching Pacquaio or Cotto or even Pavlik during their early days, where they showed great performances against limited or shot fighters before, whereas Lacy struggled for most of the times or was never really impressive at all, even if those wins came from TKOs.

    If you like to see the definition of ruining, check out the two fights between JCC and Meldrick Taylor.
     
  14. David_TheMan

    David_TheMan ESB Sage Full Member

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    Don't talk to me about Lacy bandwagoners because I'm not one. Lacy was nothing more than an average at best fighter with no defense, no technical skill, but loads of speed and power. He was befuddled by boxers and Joe C. took advantage of him. He never was a great fighter and never was on his way to becoming a great fighter. That is it. Period. Case Closed.

    Calzaghe can't ruin something that never was, Lacy is now exactly the same way he was before, a one dimensional slugger, except now he has less speed and it seems his power has disappated.
     
  15. David_TheMan

    David_TheMan ESB Sage Full Member

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    I was never a Lacy nuthugger, so I don't care what they said. The fact is if you look at his ACTUAL FIGHTS and SEE WHAT HE ACTUALLY WAS, he was never a great world class fighter period. To try to praise the guy like he was great is ridiculous because everyone knows it is not true.

    The sad part is for Calzaghe, Lacy is one of his career highlights, and that is ****ing pathetic.