Joe Calzaghe V James TOney at 168

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  1. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Calzaghe would lose to prime Jones at SMW.

    Other than that he's way too much for any other 168 lb boxer, including Toney and BHop.
     
  2. mrkoolkevin

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  3. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Toney by UD.Calzaghe would likely get knocked down too.

    Toney was at his peak at 168
     
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  4. BCS8

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    Calzaghe outworks Toney and outspeeds him. It's going to look like Tiberi returned to the ring juiced with a six pack of red bull. Toney was pretty tough so he'd probably make the end but the scores are going to be lopsided.
     
  5. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's how I see it, Joe would be too active with Calzaghe throwing twice as much and getting a unanimous decision somewhere around 116-112 since these guys fight 12 rounders
     
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  6. Jel

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    Interesting mix of styles. Calzaghe would be the busier fighter so I can see him edging it on activity but Toney was better defensively and I can see him countering with the more effective punches.

    A close and debatable decision win for Calzaghe in the UK or a close and debatable decision win for Toney in the US.
     
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  7. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Toney was a busy fighter himself when in shape. Just more skilled than Joe.
     
  8. Cobra33

    Cobra33 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Charles Williams was a lightheavyweight champion Toney KNOCKED OUT.
    You forgot to put unbeaten Michael Nunn.
    As well as Reggie Johnson.
    Unbeaten Merqui Sosa.
    Unbeaten Tim Littles.
    MIKE McCALLUM.
    Now show me who JC has on his resume- and dont put Eubank,Hopkins, or Jones as they were YEARS past their prime.
    Hell didnt Eubank and Jones drop JC?
     
  9. Minotauro

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    Even an old Hopkins dropped him. Honestly Joe getting dropped by an old Hopkins (who was not a powerful light heavy by any means) and a totally shot Jones hurt his legacy rather then give it the extra boost he wanted. Makes me think both were likely capable of stopping him in their prime.
     
  10. Tin_Ribs

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    This basically. Both at their best I see it being nowt but a close fight. Calzaghe was a sucker for the overhand right as the Reid, Hopkins fights etc showed and Toney was a master at drawing people onto it. I can see Joe's head being snapped back hard a fair few times by it. That said, he was a smart, adaptable fighter and would probably suss quite quickly that Toney struggled more specifically with movement to his right and maybe try to exploit James from that side with his underrated southpaw jab. Maybe try to reign back leaping in too much but choose his moments to smother Toney with point-scoring if sloppy, unhurtful flurries before disengaging and forcing Toney to reset. I'd actually be very keen to see the infighting in this one: obviously Toney was an old -school master there, so wonderful at rolling with shots and countering hard and fluid from a defensively sound position. Calzaghe was an underrated infighter though, very strong and capable of knotting opponents up in the clinch. He had a nice short right hook and left uppercut too when he used them. And a decent straight left from mid to long range when he threw it properly. Reggie Johnson showed that Toney could be caught by that punch, though his was generally a sneakier, more well-timed shot than Calzaghes.