Joe Calzaghe v Roy Jones Jnr 2002

Joe did well to stick around up to his age yes. He had extraordindary fitness to fall back on of course so a small loss in lung power was not such a bad loss, unless you want to deny that he did have awesome lungpower of course.


I respect Joe for his accomplishments, particularly in beating Kessler, by far his highest achievement which likewise must be considered the near peak of his abilities since there is no other comparable peak achievement in his resume. What problem do you have with that?

 

are you saying that the science behind human ageing is wrong?

how is it wrong? please explain.

yeah I was just about to go home but this has gotta be worth sticking around for.

 

Yeah. It's kinda like Floyd saying that he wanted Baldomir because he was the linear champ, hence avoiding Margarito. To Jones's credit he never played the 'linear title card'. Maybe because that would have made him look worse. As it stands, Jones is a beltcollector.

 

I am saying your post is absolutely ridiculous and not every fighter starts fading just because they are 30 or older :roflatsch

Is there any excuse you won't make for Glass Jaw Roy? Is there? You sound like the muppets that claim Tyson was not in his Prime when he was 24 just because he lost.

 

RIco, you've not yet explained how the science of human ageing is wrong.


Its pretty irrefutable that physical attributes start fading at certain ages and ([url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2695176/[/url]) lungs start minimally at 30, and the loss multiplies at 35.

But do carry on and explain how the science is wrong.

 

Well I think Joes win over Kessler is overrated because the dane didn't spar for the fight because of a broken right hand. Even with that serious injury, he pushed Joe hard. Had it been in Denmark, the crowd might have pushed Kessler forward so much that he might have nicked enough rounds for a win.

 

So Joe was past his best when he had the best wins of his career?

 

Ok genius..

Name as many fighters as you can that have won world titles at MW-SMW-LHW- and HW... Ill be waiting..

Rico arguing FACT with his OPINION.atsch

 

His prime has to be considered the Kessler win, since there is no win to equate to its level before that. It is impossible to call Joes prime as at any point when he fought a string of bums and fringe fighters, since they all would have been beaten easily except for Reid.

After Kessler, post 35 was post prime for him yes.


I hope you aren't trying to prove to me that people age at different rates, when the studies I am quoting are based on an average from a mass study. It would be an odd thing if you were too, that's Rico territory.

 

Someone needs to let Roy and boxing historians know that Rico Spadafora decided Roy didn't make history because he doesn't think highly of Ruiz.:rofl

And don't come back with this Spinks bull****... He didn't fight at MW, HE IS NOT IN THIS CONVERSATION...atsch

 

quite, and while they are at it email the scientists to let them know that Rico decided they are wrong in their studies of human ageing too.

 

What I am saying is that while it is irrefuteable that the body is in decline after about age 29, there so much more to boxing than physics. You have to factor in experience both in a psycological, technical, tactical and strategic sense.

I have no doubt though, that Calzaghe could have achieved so much more if he and War ren had more confidence in his ability.

 

He didn't fight or beat Lennox Lewis. Period. It isn't history. And we already know Toney (a fat and out of shape one at that) moved up and beat Ruiz even easier than Roy did. Byrd who was a Middleweight stayed in the Divison and fought everyone.

Like I said what Roy did was the equivalent of Spinks moving up and and fighting Berbick instead of Holmes. He didn't dare do something so disgraceful though he went for THE man and beat him not once but twice. Also fought a Prime Tyson who Roy wanted 50 million to fight the shot to **** version :rofl

Jones simply didn't make History. He didn't have the balls to face THE champion. I am sure now with his bank account being so bad if he could go back and do it over I am sure he would because he needs every nickel he can get. That Guaranteed 10 mil + PPV upside for the Sanders fight would have helped also. To bad Roy pulled out to make 1/3 of that against Tarver.

Jones did this to himself. You fan boys can make excuses for him but it won't work. Like the Pazienza fight when Roy was clowning a total shot to **** blown up lightweight it was poetic justice to see Jones get savagely KOed by Tarver and feather fisted Glen Johnson then obliterated, schooled, and taunted by Calzaghe in a wipe out of a fight. Too bad so sad Jones is nothing now but a Glass Jawed Joke.

 

So Lennox Lewis was lying when he said he got better with age? Was he? Humans are not carbon copies of each other we are all different.

Your post Roy was 'fading' before the Ruiz fight was desperate and one of the most nuuhugging excuse laden posts I have ever seen on here :rofl

 

that's fine, you aren't Rico, and people always both learn develop ebb and forget constantly during their lifetimes just as irrefutably. I am sure you wouldn't find it unreasonable for a top level boxer of 35 to be keeping well away from giant primes 100 lbs heavier than his natural weight class if Joe calzaghe was shifting to facing oldies at that time. not that joes weak resume should be a benchmark for anyones achievements in the slightest.