Joe Calzaghe v Roy Jones Jnr 2002

Do you we have to go through this again?


Really?


This is the last time.



When I give my opinion, I say, either:


"In my opinion"


"I believe"


"I think" etc.



Check my history.


When I don't type that, and I'm giving actual facts, they can all be backed up on request, which you've asked me for many times, and I've provided them.


Once again, this has all started from me saying that Roy wanted Hill while he was preparing for Griffin.

You laughed and asked if I had psychic powers, and I said that I'd read it in an interview, that's been posted on here in a link.


Since that day, you've just ran with it, and now others have jumped on the bandwagon.



Let's have a look who they are, other than yourself.



General Zod.

I've proven to you on two occasions, that Zod was mistaken. He accused me of passing opinions off as facts, and highlighted three examples of me supposedly doing so. But each of the examples that he highlighted, all said "I think...." at the beginning of each sentence. So I obviously wasn't trying to pass anything off as being factual.

Do you understand?



Next up is Assassin.

This is a guy who's completely deluded.

He thinks that when Joe said he wasn't chasing Roy, he was actually saying "Come on Roy, I want to fight, just stop messing me about."



Then there's Rico, a passionate Roy hater who throws all logic out of the window.



Finally, there's Bat, who'll go to any lengths, rather than admit he's wrong. He's the Danish version of yourself.




If I know things that you don't, it doesn't mean that it's not factual.




Now as I've mentioned before, I could go and analyse your posts and tear them apart if I wanted to.



Do you remember when I posted 3 quotes of Joe from 2004, saying how he knew that he needed to leave SMW, and go to the U.S. for bigger fights and he knew he could take his speed up etc?

I posted the quotes, and you told me that he changed his mind about going, because he'd got unfinished business at the weight, with big fights against Lacy and Kessler.

But as I've pointed out numerous times, when Joe made those comments (early in 2004, before and after the Mger Mkrtchyan fight) Lacy and Kessler had hardly done anything.


So that was only your opinion, that you tried to pass of as a fact, and unless Joe's psychic and he could see into the future at that point, then it's laughable.



That's one example for you, and I've many more.



So if you want to keep up with this, then I'll dissect everyone of your posts.

 

You have got zero credibility on here.


You keep telling us the same things over and over.


Nady was one of the main reasons why Roy beat Ruiz.


Ruiz was handpicked.


Roy ducked everybody.


Larry Merchant wasn't happy after the Frazier fight.



That's pretty much all you contribute.

 

Are you seriously dismissing the whole link, with facts and figures, from a highly respected sports strategist who trained Spinks from 1982?

Likewise, I'd enjoy having a cold beer with you.

But we'd probably end up getting locked up, and at 5am in a police cell, I'd be saying "Kohl wouldn't accept Davis's calls!"

Ha!

 

atsch

 

Loudon just smacked 3 posters down, one after the other.

 

Im not sure I would enjoy a cold beer with Bat.. I feel I would have trouble convincing him there is a difference between beer and whiskey

 

I'd love to see Bat get into a proper debate with Bailey.

Bailey could swear that black was white, and after a while, you'd start doubting yourself.


I'd enjoy it as much as Bailey's old debates with Zod, and the classic Zod Vs Knockout Artist debates.

I used to love those.


It's a real shame that Knockout's gone, and Zod doesn't spend much time on here anymore.


When's the Team Elite award ceremony?

 

LMAO at those basketcases saying that Spinks ballons up to 190+ in the short term that is between these fights. They cannot deal with reason and logic. :deal

 

You are arguing he can lose 10 lbs with an extra day, but now are also arguing that it would be impossible for him to lose 18 lbs in two months.atsch

Not too impressed Bat.:-(

 

Poor Bat, trying to argue that Spinks didn't have to cut weight to get to 175 lbs.. It is just pathetic at this point.atsch

 

Are you still here? You are embarrasing yourself.

 

Loudon and I have provided proof that Spinks had to cut to get down to 175... I have no idea why you are arguing that.

 

Anyway,

there's no way that Joe would have beaten Roy, when Roy was anywhere near his prime.

 

I think Jones-Calzaghe when Jones was in his Tarver 1 state after cutting back down from HW, would have been very interesting.. I think the Jones from Tarver 2 avoids the knockout punch from Joe, and beats him in a close fight.

Anytime before his move up to HW, Roy wins comfortably...

168 version of Roy from the Toney fight possibly stops Joe.

 

The Award Ceremony is on the way and I have spent many hours in debate with my fellow Team Elite Generals discussing who will and wont be selected. I can tell you would like a bit of recommendation. Your time will come.
As for Bat, why would you want to see me destroy him in debate? Bat has been schooled by me so many times that he now finds it an honour to be called Dailey