Joe Calzaghe vs Andre Dirrell WHO WINS??

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  1. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Robin Reid was an odd fighter, he could blow hot and cold and he was at his hottest when he fought Calzaghe. Yes it was a SD but the all 3 of the studio team had Calzaghe in a good lead. Calzaghe was fighting away at the time and every move of Reids was cheered on, and Calzaghe broke his hand early only still to win.
    Why do you say he was not that good before Lacy? He wasnt in any other fights as tough as Reid.
    Dirrell on the other hand (however you score it) was in a very close fight with Froch who is alot slower than Calzaghe. Calzaghe would also throw and land alot more, causing Dirrell to go into his retreat and shell and start taking a knee when Calzaghe poors it on.
    I know Dirrell wasnt ready when AA landed the shot when he was down, which im sure adds effect to the shot but it also didnt look the biggest shot in the world and a prime Calzaghe could hit alot harder than the Calzaghe who was punching Lacy.
    I dont think Dirrells that great that he could beat Lacy pre - Calzaghe and alot of people say he exposed Froch but I see it as they exposed each other
     
  2. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    So what was Dirrells impressive win?
     
  3. Anglosaxon

    Anglosaxon FASTEST HANDS ON ESB Full Member

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    Calzaghe adapts to a fighter, he proved that against hop, Hop sets his game plan different each time, joe adapts within a few rounds and causes the othr fighter all the problems, Dirrell couldn't fight in any manner that would trouble Joe, his footspeed and handspeed would see him swarm dirrell who relies a lot on his reflexes, against Joes flurries, it would never work, joe could also fight on the backfoot, or fight inbetween, reach isn't everything, and Dirrell lacks the power to hurt joe, so Joe would counter at will, I just can't see Dirrell beating Calzaghe right now, let alone a prime Joe.
     
  4. BoxingFanNo1

    BoxingFanNo1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    18 people think this Dirrell would beat JC, that is unreal.

    JC ko late/UD due to Dirrells questionable ability to last a full 12 with a pressure fighter.

    Ask this Q in a few years, my answer may be different.
     
  5. Anglosaxon

    Anglosaxon FASTEST HANDS ON ESB Full Member

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    Hanshaw had Dirrell in all sorts of problems, Dirrell was **** against Froch, and looked very good for 50% of the AA fight, then when AA started throwing and moving, it evened up, if AA wasn't such a damn slow starter, then Dirrell wouldn't have looked half as good, when someones motionless and plodding along, anyone can look great, Calzaghe would never fight like this, its just silly to think Dirrell would beat Joe.
     
  6. pretty boy

    pretty boy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Dirrel wud outbox him. Kessler gave calzaghe a hard fight but was took to skool by ward who fights very similar to dirrel. Dirrell is faster than ward. Dirrell isnt an easy target and if a 42 yr old b-hop outboxed calzaghe a young fighter with dirrells talent wud do the same.
     
  7. SuperFloyd100

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    when was there a prime joe?
     
  8. boxexpert

    boxexpert Active Member Full Member

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    calzaghe by UD,clearly.it would be a good fight to watch
     
  9. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Robin Reid wasnt that good. No where close to Dirrells class, lets end that right now.

    Because he finally became confident. He was a scared fighter before that. When he beat Lacy the fear left him and he became better. Warren and his wife make mention of his personality change after beating Lacy.
    More due to the way both fighters fought rather then how many punches Froch landed which was hardly any. In a nuetral site this probably doesnt even got to decision.

    Besides the point it was Dirrells first 12 rounder. He was alot more mature when he fought Abraham.

    Calzaghe would win by UD but slaps never had KO power against real opposition. Anyone could amass a 80% ko rate with the guys slaps was fighting.

    You think Slaps hits harder then Abraham. Yout think Slaps would land the punches he was landing on Lacy that he was landing on Andre Dirrell? :rofl


    Dirrell would smoke any version of Jeff Lacy. Are you serious. :rofl Arthur Abraham was better then any version of Jeff Lacy. Jeff Lacy struggled with Omar Sheika.

    Are you high?
     
  10. Son of Gaul

    Son of Gaul Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Calzaghe would outclass Dirrell. Next!
     
  11. BoxingFanNo1

    BoxingFanNo1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The Calzaghe that beat Hopkins and Kessler was a couple of years past prime therefore your point is mute.

    And Hopkins didn't outbox Calzaghe at all, unless you count holding and hitting as 'outboxed':lol:

    You also miss the fact that Ward was a dirty **** against Kessler, and dismiss Calzaghes ability to adapt to his opponents.
     
  12. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    The vast majority of nobel prize winners are American. The vast majority of the top universities in the world are American.

    Britain invented the web. American invented the internet, along with the shuttle, lasers, Ipod, video game, heart transplant and possibly the cure for AIDs.

    http://www.technewsworld.com/story/69259.html?wlc=1270404808


    Again BRitain was worth something 100 years ago, now on the level of Canada or Bermuda.

    Reid was a scrub. Says alot about Joey Slaps that he struggled with him. YOu see Roy Jones struggle with any Reid level fighters in his prime? Hell no.
     
  13. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    Calzaghe would beat him, comprehensively.
     
  14. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    So to get this straight Slappy Joe fans. When was Slaps prime? When he won an SD against Robin Reid or beat a shot Roy Jones. Or was it somewhere inbetween?

    Hopkins landed more punches on Joey, then Slaps landed back, unless you count hitting his back with slaps. Look at Joeys face after the fight and look at Hopkins.
     
  15. brenster44

    brenster44 New Member Full Member

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    the dirrell that turned up against abraham would have easily beaten a prime calzaghe. calzaghe was very overated in my opinion. his best performance was his victory over kessler. other than that, who else did he really beat. (i personally believe he lost to a 43 year old hopkins and cant give him huge credit for wins over lacy and roy jones ghost). i would have liked see calzaghe rematch hopkins or fight someone in their prime like pavlik, abraham or dawson before he quit the sport. win or lose he would gain huge respect in the world of boxing if he returned to face the winner of the super six. i dont think thats likely with the recent news of his coke habbit, and the fact that he never really took high risk fights.