Joe Calzaghe vs Andre Ward At 168

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Joe Calzaghe vs Andre Ward At 168

  1. Calzaghe By PTS

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  2. Calzaghe By KO/TKO

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  3. Draw

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  4. Ward By PTS

    35.4%
  5. Ward By KO/TKO

    6.3%
  1. sas6789

    sas6789 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Mod-Mania Boxing Addict Full Member

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  3. 88Chris05

    88Chris05 Active Member Full Member

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    Always leaned towards Ward on points in a scrappy fight in this one.

    Calzaghe's output and fitness were a big USP but I think Ward had the game to offset that. Guys like Starie, Salem, Bika and Hopkins all reduced Calzaghe from his usual 1,000 punches per fight down to the 600-700 region and he didn't look all that impressive or skilled in any of them, albeit it's a testament to him that he still got the 'W' in all cases.

    They did that by muscling Calzaghe in close and smothering his work. Calzaghe's strength was that mid range where he was always willing to let his hands go, even in potentially dangerous situations, but I don't think Ward would get trapped in those kind of positions enough. Ward was either right on the outside using his basic handspeed to accumulate points, or right on top of you, pushing you back, smothering your work and shortening his punches. He's the much better inside fighter in this case and not afraid to back that up with the dark arts.

    I just get the impression Calzaghe would never quite find his rhythm in this one and unlike the guys I mentioned above, who troubled him or made him look average but who weren't good enough to win, I think Ward would have the combination of fitness, nous and intelligence to eek this one out.
     
  4. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    I like this. I normally go with Joe but this sounds very plausible.
     
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  5. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He’s just too busy that boy
     
  6. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic War for Souls Full Member

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    To win (Joe Calzaghe and Andre Ward) Mikkel Kessler; Joe Calzaghe did it legally, and Andre Ward used illegal tactics (elbows).
    I try to avoid the "triangle theory", but I don't like dirty boxers.
    Joe Calzaghe wins in legal fight.
     
  7. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think it takes more of a durable pressure fighter to beat Joe at 168, it's close but I like Joe here
     
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  8. Guru88

    Guru88 Active Member Full Member

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    Very close but Ward is a little too clever for Joe and nicks it
     
  9. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  10. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    50/50 Type fight….perhaps ward by a SD type of verdict if I had to choose a guy. Both great and would be a fun fight in my mind.
     
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  12. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This would be a repeat of Hopkins vs Calzaghe a horrible sloppy fight these two would not mesh well, it probably ends in a controversial decision either way.
     
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  13. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Ward. Jones is the guy at 168 who matched or exceeded his level.
     
  14. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I honestly believe Joe would have been a bit too dynamic for Andre, his underrated footwork being the difference.
     
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  15. Levook

    Levook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I like Ward by close but unanimous decision in this matchup, the only way Calzaghe wins is if he avoids extended exchanges and uses his legs to get in & out a lot.

    I had the Calzaghe-Hopkins fight much closer than most, and Ward to me is similar to Bernard in style. If Hopkins, at that age, could give Joe all those problems, then Ward in his prime is too much of a problem.
     
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