Joe Calzaghe vs Bernard Hopkins - The Record Comparison

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Beatboxer, Mar 21, 2008.


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  1. dan-b

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    Yes but Joe himself admitted he was struggling to make weight, a claim Hopkins never made. So to say he was comfortable, by his own admission, is untrue.

    I think I've been painted as a Calzaghe hater on this site, an image I've probably helped perpetuate, but it's not the case. I just haven't turned him into some demigod on the basis of a few wins like others have. I'm not saying any of you lot have done this but there are fanboys who have probably only seen five Calzaghe fights.
     
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  2. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    No argument there. A good matchup is a good matchup irrespective of belts.
     
    GazOC, Mar 21, 2008
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  3. Beatboxer

    Beatboxer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yea man I hadn't forgot about it. University just been really getting on top of me and I finally finished some pesky course work yesterday. Then I decided I would make this thread and give it the due consideration it deserves.

    Ill be doing Hopkins later. Ill state right here and now that I believe whilst Calzaghes legacy is underrated, Hopkins is overrated. That is not to say Hopkins is rubbish or anything - it isn't. Its a very good solid resume but not so much that it transcends Calzaghe - they are infinetly comparable in my mind in terms of the fighters they have beaten.

    Ill go into more depth later.
     
    Beatboxer, Mar 21, 2008
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  4. Beatboxer

    Beatboxer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I agree. Ive been on this site alot longer than my join date suggests. And trust me from 2003-2005 this site was anything but Pro-Calzaghe. The fairweather fans and fanboys came out the wall from March 2006 onwards for obvious reasons.
     
    Beatboxer, Mar 21, 2008
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  5. dan-b

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    Look we've done the alphabet debate to death. My main reason for wanting to ignore the WBO is simply because if we don't in a few years we'll be having the same debate about the IBO. The WBA did stop Naz unifying with the WBO though when he fought Wilfredo Vazquez.
     
    dan-b, Mar 21, 2008
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  6. Beatboxer

    Beatboxer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes but I never even remember a mention of it. This is the one thing I hold against JC. Its clear the Americans weren't up for it and the Ottke case is well documented but DM is a different beast. Couldn't a comprimise have been made? Its a big fight in European terms. I know you don't hold it against them on account of being in different divisions but I do sense a lost opportunity here.
     
    Beatboxer, Mar 21, 2008
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  7. GazOC

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    JC was always complaining about the weight, his book is full of it, but he still managed it for years after a mooted DM fight failed to materialise so he must have been reasonable OK at 168, he's has a few tough 12 rounders since then that would have shown up any weight making problems.. I think he's just one of those type of fighters who likes a moan, bad hands, poor motivation, weight etc...
     
    GazOC, Mar 21, 2008
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  8. Beatboxer

    Beatboxer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You could be right if Ricky Hatton has his way!

    Did you hear him the other week on Sky Sports? :rofl

    I think thats a bit drastic as well. I can't be arsed getting into it but its doubtful that any alpha soup **** will get serious recogntion in the next few years.

    As you've said its been to death so perhaps another day but not now.
     
    Beatboxer, Mar 21, 2008
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  9. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    gr8 work bb
     
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  10. brown_bomber

    brown_bomber BROWN BOMBER Full Member

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    hopkins fought the better opposition compared to calzaghe who fought absoulte jack **** opposition his whole career apart from a past it eubank and kessler, lacy was nothing but a overhyped shitface
     
    brown_bomber, Mar 21, 2008
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  11. dan-b

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    Don't post unless you are willing/able to converse like an adult.:good
     
    dan-b, Mar 21, 2008
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  12. Beatboxer

    Beatboxer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wow thats me told :lol:

    Anyway cheers for the feedback and any kind words guys.

    Ive got a load of stuff do to right now but I should be back later to do a Hopkins analysis. I also promise that I will be as objective as I can be given my position on this matter :p
     
    Beatboxer, Mar 21, 2008
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  13. dan-b

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    No problem mate thats all we can ask.:good
     
    dan-b, Mar 21, 2008
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  14. mattress

    mattress Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So is Calzaghe going to get some respect if he beats Hopkins? Or will it be the same old story of the opposition being 'too old' or 'hyped', etc??
     
    mattress, Mar 21, 2008
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  15. kurt2006

    kurt2006 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    They have both fought similar opposition but JC has been done more schooling.

    For me the Lacy fight was the best performance by JC. He totally shut out Lacy and poor old Lacy has not been the same since.
     
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