Joe Calzaghe vs. Canelo Alvarez (15 year Calzaghe vs. Lacy Anniversary)

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Who wins

  1. Joe Calzaghe (prime) Points

    58 vote(s)
    78.4%
  2. Joe Calzaghe (prime) TKO

    3 vote(s)
    4.1%
  3. Canelo TKO

    6 vote(s)
    8.1%
  4. Canelo Points

    7 vote(s)
    9.5%
  1. MagicE

    MagicE Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Canelo for me just isn't big or long enough to trouble a true SMW/LHW

    And when you look at Calzaghe and how mobile and non stop he was you start to struggle to find ways for Canelo to win
     
  2. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    Slappy wins on points
     
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  3. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    And public poll man
     
  4. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's laughable that you think that there's a Super Middleweight throughout history that Canelo couldn't beat. Sure Prime Calzaghe would be a hell of a test for Canelo, but throwing non stop does not automatically win rounds. You have to land, Canelo is elusive and certainly has the power to hurt Calzaghe. If Canelo can't get him out of there, he'll land enough quality punches to slow Joe down and win most rounds. Calzaghe has never had a fighter who could truly test him with serious power. Canelo has the punching power, overall speed and skill to give Calzaghe fits.
     
  5. elmaldito

    elmaldito Skillz Full Member

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    Calzaghie 10-2 or 9-3
    Prob similar to the lara fight but joe dominating slightly better the lara did.
     
  6. elmaldito

    elmaldito Skillz Full Member

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    Lmao
    Does not have the speed of hand or foot to do **** to calzagie
    Canelo is just a masterful fighter like bhop....lol. gtfo troll
     
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  7. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    LOL please give me a break @ Lara "dominating" Canelo. News Flash - Canelo beat Lara, and Lara has a completely different style to Calzaghe. You saying it would be similar to Lara - Canelo shows you are clueless.

    Canelo could do plenty of damage to Calzaghe. It would be a hell of a fight but you giving Canelo no chance is hilarious. Canelo has spent his entire career disproving doubters. The idea that Canelo would knock out Kovalev would have been a joke to most people, then it happened. Canelo had no chance vs GGG, then he beat him. 40s BHop and near-40 RJJ gave Calzaghe all kinds of problems. Canelo would have a field day with Calslappy.
     
  8. BCS8

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    Calzaghe much much too busy for Alvarez. UD.
     
  9. anjawnaymiz

    anjawnaymiz Can we get Ivan Dychko some momentum Full Member

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    Khan was doing well up until the stoppage. Calzaghe has fast hands but is unorthodox, has a good chin and has different gears/plans to go to.

    calzaghe via clear ud or possibly late uk stoppage Peter manfredo smothered style
     
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  10. elmaldito

    elmaldito Skillz Full Member

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    Not a similar fight but a similar domination. If you think canelo won that fight vs lara proves you know nothing about boxing.
    Bhop beat calzaghie.
    Have you ever heard of a bad dec or a robbery? They do exist.
    Lol
     
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  11. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Canelo did beat Lara, it's a fact. Lara ran the whole fight. He had a moderate amount of success, Lara won some rounds, but he didn't score enough quality punches to win. Canelo cut off the ring and landed the better punches. Throwing jabs while running away and barely connecting on anything meaningful doesn't win you rounds. You can argue you thought Lara won, but don't tell me he DID win. Jean Pascal once said to BHop after their first match "you can never call a close fight a robbery". Canelo Lara was close and could be argued either way. If Canelo fought Calzaghe and it went the distance, it would probably be another hotly debated decision like Canelo GGG, BHop Calzaghe, etc.

    Saying that BHop beat Calzaghe, again close match, but if you believe that 40 something Hopkins, who had no power and was outlanded significantly, still beat Calzaghe, than what's so crazy about Prime Canelo beating Calzaghe? Canelo is much more dangerous as a puncher than Hopkins ever was, unlike BHop Canelo could actually hurt Calzaghe and has sublime defense. If old BHop did enough for you to beat Calzaghe then what's so crazy about Canelo beating Calzaghe? Kovalev dominated BHop, won every round vs BHop, Canelo came along from lower weights and knocked Kovalev into next week. Canelo is slick like BHop but unlike BHop was when he fought Calzaghe is in his prime and has one punch KO power. A lot of people thought BHop deserved to beat Calzaghe, so your not alone in that, and that so many people thought BHop won only serves to show how beatable Calzaghe is. If a 40 something BHop could beat Joe, it would be much easier for a prime Canelo to beat Joe.
     
  12. kirk

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    JC is one of my most disliked fighters of all time...

    But theres no way Id pick Canelo against him.

    Maybe the faded version that was on his way out the sport... maaaaybe primed out Canelo could edge him out, but... is that really the point?

    Any near prime version of JC would outpoint Canelo.

    JC UD, 8 rounds to 4.
     
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  13. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So Current Canelo vs the faded version who fought BHop and RJJ - you'd have to favor Canelo to "edge him out". OK, you can't really compare earlier versions of Canelo to Calzaghe since he was in lower weight classes. Faded Calzaghe who fought at LHW vs LHW Canelo who fought Kovalev, toss up, maybe favor Joe there because that was not the best version of Canelo. Canelo vs Kovalev lost some speed and activity level carrying that extra weight. Canelo is much more effective and versatile at 168. And yes Calzaghe in his prime at 168 was much better than faded, older LHW Calzaghe. Current 168 lb Canelo vs faded 175 lb Calzaghe, have to favor Canelo. Current 168 lb Canelo vs Prime 168 lb Calzaghe, toss up. It would be a hell of a fight. You favoring Calzaghe in that scenario is reasonable, winning an 8 rounds to 4 decision, you can certainly make that argument. But how is that any different from Canelo vs GGG 1, where many people argued GGG won 8 rounds to 4 by giving GGG several close rounds where if you score swing rounds the other way Canelo wins 8 rounds to 4.

    Current SMW Canelo vs Prime SMW Calzaghe would likely go the distance, and most of this forum would probably argue Calzaghe won by outlanding Canelo. But Canelo is fighting with a lot of confidence, and clearly this version of Canelo would be far better than any fighter that Calzaghe had ever faced. I mean just think about the version of Lacy that fought Calzaghe, if you put that Lacy against current Canelo, Canelo would destroy Lacy as Calzaghe did. Current Canelo vs Prime Calzaghe would be a Mega Fight at 168. It would be a freakin war, it would be sure to produce a hotly debated decision, another quantity (Calzaghe) vs quality (Canelo) debate about rounds. Canelo landing the harder better shots while Calzaghe slightly outworking Canelo by throwing more punches. In the end Canelo's quality wins out, he would be slightly outlanded, but would be countering Calzaghe all night, slipping shots with head movement, and after a couple of rounds would learn to time Calzaghe coming in with well placed body shots that the judges would notice. In the end, Canelo would likely win a close but competitive decision that most of this forum would call a robbery similar to GGG because they can't stand Canelo once against proving them wrong and beating the best fighter out there.
     
  14. MarvelousMarvinGolovkin

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    Joe would beat the brakes off of clenelo, it doesn't matter if Clenelo takes EPO, Clenbuterol, Boar meat, it don't matter.
     
  15. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol: does anyone read Shadow's 1,500 word completely one sided garbage essays???
     
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