Joe Calzaghe vs Canelo At 168

OK good now we are getting somewhere. First, yes they are in different divisions, but as an example Bernard Hopkins who fought most of his career at Middleweight and was not known as a puncher made the jump to LHW pretty seamlessly and dropped Calzaghe.

I think you get the point, that Calzaghe does not have as good of a chin as GGG. (and yes I agree GGG has a granite chin) The point is that Calzaghe is more chinny regardless of the weight than GGG is, so just because Canelo couldn't drop GGG doesn't mean he can't drop Calzaghe. I think you'll agree that it's easier to drop Calzaghe than GGG so you get my point.

Ask yourself this : when has Calzaghe fought somebody that had the agility to dig in body shots like Canelo can? He's never faced that. When Calzaghe started to get inside vs Roy, Roy didn't have the agility and he fought a very upright fight. Canelo on the other hand can fight inside, as he proved in the GGG rematch, and that's what Calzaghe does best. So Calzaghe wouldn't just be able to work inside unimpeded. I mean at least Hopkins used his boxing skills to make him miss, and do an extent RJJ rolled with a lot of the punches and blocked many of them vs Calzaghe. But vs Canelo Calzaghe would be challenged at a much higher level than a 40 something Hopkins and a 39 yard old RJJ. If we're talking about 168, then that was pretty much a prime Calzaghe who was maybe less chinny and had better speed. The best version of Calzaghe gives Canelo a tough fight, and it'd be a great clash of styles. What Calzaghe did to Kessler and to Lacy was impressive, but Canelo is a much higher level of opponent than anyone Calzaghe faced. Canelo has the power and the speed to hurt Calzaghe to stop Calzaghe as Calzaghe is known for staying in the pocket throwing punches and he's a sitting duck for the counter if he's in there with Canelo.

 

**** off... not reading this long winded, self serving ****...

 

Apprently you are not interested in discussing the finer points of Calzaghe vs Canelo. If you have no interest in discussing the topic at hand, then run along.

 

I'd sooner discuss a combustion engine w/ an infant, than to take anything you post serious.

 

well then stop wasting my time with your shenanigans. I come on here to talk boxing intelligently. If you are not capable of doing that, then run along.

 

How is this even relevant? Let's say we all agree GGG has a better chin than Calzaghe, how is that relevant to this conversion? Do you think Joe comes forward and takes the bombs that GGG took?

How do the flash KD's against B-Hop and RJJ matter? Calzaghe won both fights? If I were being equally ridiculous I'd ask how someone that potentially lost to Lara and Trout can beat a SMW with incredible 6 output, world class stamina and angles that most pro boxers have ever seen? Riddle me that....?

 

After much studying I would have to go with canelo scoring a knockdown and edging a close competitive decision canelos kryptonite is that of Floyd's Lara style .Joe would be walking straight into canelos counters. And Joe has been dropped so canelo would score a knockdown on Joe helping him stay afloat in the scorecards I don't see Joe stopping canelo at all .I see Joe fading as the rounds go bye due to canelos bodyshot

 

It would be interesting but Joe is too big and he would outbox him easily and maybe stop him late.

 

It's relevant to this conversation because we're discussing what would happen if Canelo fought Calzaghe. I agree that Calzaghe has (or had) world class stamina. That's his best asset that he keeps coming at you but he's never faced a counter puncher like Canelo. One punch can change a fight when you are fighting Canelo and you are not technically sound. GGG is much more technically sound than Calzaghe and Calzaghe's style makes him a sitting duck for a fight-changing Canelo counter. I could also see Canelo slipping many of Calzaghe's punches.

Your points about Lara and Trout are not very relavant to Canelo vs Calzaghe because those are high level boxers whereas Calzaghe is a brawler who comes right at you. That's funny how you try and act like what I'm saying about Calzaghe being chinny isn't relevant to fighting Canelo but your points about Trout and Lara who fought nothing like Calzaghe are lol.

 

The fact that you would call him Clenelo probably means you are 12 or extremely biased and I am not sure how credible that makes a prediction? I do think Joe beats him wide, but I generally have to much appreciation and respect for fighters to call them childish names. Just my $0.02

 

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Are you going to report yourself?

 

This goes the distance.

Joe takes it 120 - 108.

Joe is way too busy to give up rounds to the Mexican.

There's a bit of a chance that it's 118-109 on account of a flash KD that Canelo might manage to score early.
And there's about the same amount of chance that Canelo (who has nowhere near Joe's stamina) gets stopped late by exhaustion.