Joe Calzaghe vs Carl Froch

I posted this in the classic:


Calzaghe was made for 15 round fights, Froch has great stamina as well, so I don't think either guy is significantly weakening down the stretch,

To people who say that Froch would walk through Calzaghe slaps, ask yourself this, why couldn't 46 professional boxers? Including champions and former champions? A lot of Joe's flurries looked like pitter patter, but he had good power and would mix a couple of power punches in there to deter his opponent. He couldn't commit to many of his punches due to his hands, but prime Calzaghe on a night where his hands aren't injured, and don't get injured can hurt Froch. Calzaghe has the greater speed, jab, boxing skills. Both have iron chins, so I don't see a stoppage.

Calzaghe will outland Froch in exchanges, in fact by engaging Calzaghe, Carl is playing into his hands, Joe will outland, hit him and spin off, hit him and spin off. Calzaghe will land his straight left more than Carl will land his straight right, and Joe will win the battle of the jabs. Carl will be game throughout, and may even hurt Joe once or twice, but nothing serious. Overall, I see Calzaghe winning a 9-3 type decision against a game and spirited Carl Froch, in a thrilling fight.

 

Old Eubank ,Old Jones and Hopkins ..But look how long it took to make those fights ..He never lost because he carefully selected who he fought !


And Froch could have easily got the nod against Kessler ,lets also not forget Robin Reid who in some people's eyes people thought Joe lost to ..

 

Joe was green when he fought Eubank away from home. Eubank's fights against Thompson shows he was far from done. Imperial did you know that Hopkins turned down 3 million to fight Hopkins in Vegas in 2002? Did you know that Jones priced himself out of fights with Joe as well? Joe called out Hopkins and Jones in 2002 and wanted the big fights, him and Frank made offers to Sven Ottke as well. It takes two to tango, you can't make out that Joe 'carefully selected opponents' when he was trying to make the big fights when these guys were prime.

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"A teleconference was set up in my office in New York for July 30th, 2002, and on the call was myself, Don King who was in the room, Frank ****** and Bernard Hopkins' lawyer, Arnold Joseph. Along with Arnold was a woman named Linda Carter, who was there on behalf of Bernard. We asked Arnold if Bernard wanted to fight Joe Calzaghe and we asked him how much money would he want if he did. The response we got was $3million and the fight would have to take place in the United States. After a little scratching of the head, we said 'Okay, done.' Frank ****** agreed on the spot, Don King agreed and we agreed so as far as we were concerned all parties were singing off the one hymm sheet. Arnold excused himself with Linda and I can only assume it was to call Bernard. Either that day or the next day, they came with a new demand: $6million, double the sum that had been agreed, the deal blew up.....he had then and still has no desire to fight Joe Calzaghe, that much is pretty clear.

Joe gets criticised sometimes for not having fought the big-name Americans, but in this case the fault has never rested with him."

- Jay Larkin, then Showtime TV Network's Senior Vice-President of Sports and Event Programming.

Calzaghe-Reid was as much a close fight as De la Hoya-Mayweather. I bet you haven't even seen it

 

I love how people are just all over froch now. He's been one of my favorite fighters since the pascal fight, and my respect and appreciation of his warrior mentality has not wavered since. no one should be surprised that he utterly dominated and obliterated bute, no one.

 

I watched all the fights genius ..But then again you said Bute would have basically beat Froch based on speed and power so we all know how that went ..Now we know why Joe wanted nothing to do with the Cobra !

And lets also consider Joe's fragile little hands ,I see Carl having no problems walking right through those flurries .Keep watching the sport eventually you will learn it ! Your boy's resume is getting exposed more and more by actual warriors like Carl !

 

I said it before and i'll say it again, joe calzaghe is one of the most overrated fighters of all time. I don't use superlatives often, unless it applies to srr's greatness, or joe calzaghe's blown up legacy. he made his name from fighting a host of bums or past it fighters. the only two great wins he has are kessler and hopkins. the hopkins fightwas really close, and the kessler win was admittedly, very solid. carl froch, in my opinion, would beat him.

 

^This

 

So I got a prediction wrong, big deal. Have you always gotten every single prediction of a boxing match correct? I doubt it, even the most educated boxing analysts get it wrong from time to time.

Do you really think you can use Froch-Bute as an indicator for Froch Calzaghe? atsch

I notice you've changed your story about Calzaghe 'selecting fighters', you've offered nothing in response to the quotes I provided.

Sounds like you're upset about something? How has Joe's resume been exposed? It remains that Ward's best win is an older version of Kessler that Joe already beat. Froch lost to that Kessler. Froch's win against Bute is no better than Calzaghe's win over Lacy.

Sounds like you're upset because Team Elite have exposed you and your favourite fighter time and time again

 

People in the game knew how good Calzaghe was, he was ducked because he was so good, people say Calzaghe ducked this one and that one, it was they that ducked Calzaghe because they knew how good he was.

 

Old Eubank , whos younger than, Bute, Froch and Kessler of now atsch.
Many people felt Froch lost to Dirrell and Adamu, and some to Johnson.
Reid

Ask yourself this. How could you not score rounds 2, 3, 4,7, 8 (

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), 12 to Calzaghe? Remember Reid had a point deducted also.

I thought like 2 judges that Calzaghe was a clear winner and except for McCrory who scored a draw and later seemed to agree all of the other studio guest scored wide for Calzaghe including Mcguigan and Eubank. I also think damaged handed (damaged his hand in round 4) Calzaghe won and felt he won rounds 1, 9 (Reid did land the punch of the night in round 9 though) & 11.

Good away win for Calzaghe

Frochs jab wouldnt be a problem for Calzaghe, though I think Calzaghes faster jab would unsettle Froch. In close Calzaghe would do too much for Froch, who can only rabbit punch when close, and Calzaghe would im sure side step Froch and give him too many angles for those

 

Then you really dont know what you are even going on about. Woodhall, Brewer, Mitchell, Reid, Eubank, Veit, Lacy, Kessler all SMW world champs.
If Calzaghe is so overrated, then the division now must be dreadful, because except for Ward, all the top SMWs have losses that date back to Calzaghe.

Calzaghe beat Kessler who beat Froch who beat Bute etc, the list goes on including Dawson, Pascal, Abraham, Dirrell

 

And have I gotten predictions wrong sure but then again I have got a few ones right at least when it comes to boxing and not popularity !

Changed my story aout Joe selecting fighters ?:huh

Only thing I will agree with is Hopkins ducking Joe in 02 ..But Joe has cherry picked his way to a nice undefeated record that never changed from me !

And did you just compare Bute to Lacy Like I said didn't you pick Bute ? Man your such a joke with this **** ... Lets not forget how you were dismissing Froch for losing to Kessler ..Don't be mad because Joe won't be remembered as the 2nd greatest super middle soon enough ..

Don't be mad because Carl will get more respesct than Joe when its all said and done

And don't be mad that Froch is just shitting on his weak ass resume ..Its OK ..

 

They might have been flurries, but there were solid punches mixed in. Just look at Lacy, who had as much power as Froch, better speed, a higher workrate, a solid chin and better footwork. He didnt walk through anything. In fact, tell me who in 46 fights did walk through Calzaghe.
Kessler was pushing through at the end to get to Froch, but wasnt able to do it against Calzaghe

 

No one needs to here your crap 30 times every thread. Your a broken record Anyone who participates here knows what your going to say before you say it anyway.