Joe Calzaghe vs. James Toney prime/prime

Wait, are you trying to tell me Joe Calzaghe is Jermaine Taylor? Joe jabs more times in one fight than Roy Jones has in his entire career.

I like Montell; I mean how many guys can say they beat both Toney and RJJ? Still, Calzaghe would have whipped his @ss, even at 175.

As some have mentioned in the thread, Mundine is faster than Calzaghe, and might be more comparable to Jones in terms of pure 'fast twitch' movements. Calzaghe is right behind them, though, and he is much more of a straight-ahead and throws more-sustained, more technically-proficient combinations than does RJJ. Calzaghe will throw 2 jabs, a straight left and a right hook whereas Jones will throw a leaping lead right hook followed by a left. Jones often throws fewer punches in most of his combinations than does Calzaghe, so it stands to reason he 'loads up' on his shots more than does JC.

JC used to throw harder, I believe, early in his career but I think a number of hand injuries made him change his style to more of the rat-a-tat-tat which he uses now.

JC's chin reminds me of Trinidad's, where he just seems to get annoyed when he's knocked down (usually from being off balance). Roy's chin? Well, that's a different story. Suffice to say, Joe hasn't been in any 15 minute, everyone-holding-their-breath incidences, and he's never been KO'd by 1 punch, let alone having that done to him twice.

I would have LOVED to see the two fight. There is no question JC could have landed on RJJ, given his speed. And with that fine piece of china directly underneath RJJ's mouth, the results could have been most explosive.

If they fight now, though. It would just be sad. Joe has held up a lot better than RJJ.

 

Robin Reid was never given a master-class in boxing from Samuel Peters -fullstop-

 

Meanwhile Calzaghe's straight left comes across and sends Toney stumbling (or down), Calzaghe then follows it up with a flurry of 20 harmless slaps on the dazed Toney when the referee jumps in -fullstop-

 

Calzaghe's "flurries" would have no effect of Toney, where he "leans" away from shots, while Calzaghe shoots from the hips. The slaps would be landing mainly on Toney's shoulder, and countered rather easily by the overhand right. Toney would layhim out quite easily with I would say 4 rounds.

He never fought Sam Peter at 40 years old and 60 lbs over his prime either. Not to mention, Toney gave Peter a master class in boxing in their first fight, as he did so many other fighters in his past.

 

Calzaghe once made Peter quit in sparring -fullstop-

 

Sometimes when camping, I get sick and tired of the black flys and I retire to my tent.

 

Joe Calzaghe at 50 wouldn't be out boxed by Peter, smashed up maybe, but not out boxed!

 

Toney kicks his funky Welsh ass, even though I find Joe much more personable he isn't up to Toney.

 

Joe C at 230 lbs, 40 years old, wouldn't be able to wildy slap his hands nearly as fast as he does now. The Sam Peter that beat toney in the second fight boxed better than I have ever seen Joe C. His punches were landing at the knuckle, and doing so with power. His shots were crisp, his leg movment was textbook, and his abilty to adapt was supurb. And by the way, I hate Sam Peter.

 

When?

 

Back when Peters was preparing to beat Toney a second time, Joe was in the US promoting the fight with American superstar Peter Manfredo Jr -fullstop-

 

I'm ever so slowly coming around... :good

 

By the way, the poll's rather close at the moment. Slight edge to Toney, although the favourite pick is Calzaghe by decision...

Good fight!

 

#1 Joe couldn't hurt James to begin with...so "Slaps" wouldn't be anything but annoying to James (although you don't give your boy Joe enough credit for his power)

#2 While Joe is fast at the lower wieghts James was not slow himself and he is far the more superior counter puncher and defensive wizard.

All of which point to an obvious outcome with James being the clear winner.

 

This is the way I see it.