Joe Calzaghe vs Rocky Marciano 180 LB catchweight

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  1. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Spoken like someone who's never been inside a ring.

    But lets get to your Ted Lowry assumption. You realize you're talking about a Marciano who had only 21 fights after a brief amateur career, right? You realize Lowry was an experience veteran with 118 fights at the time, right? You realize Lowry was only stopped 3 times in 143 bouts, rights? So why would you be using that version of Marciano against the best of Zags? Why not the version that beat all time great Archie Moore?
     
  2. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah, ok! :patsch
     
  3. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Calzaghe was stopped zero times.

    That is infinitely less times than Lowry was stopped, Lowry also weighed 175 pounds.

    Calzaghe is in another class to Marciano.

    You are talking about a guy with approximately 5 title defences beating Calzaghe. I appreciate you Marciano was an icon in his era but this is Joe Calzaghe we are talking about. The man who eats pressure fighters for breakfast, without even needing to using anything besides the jab.
     
  4. ribtickler68

    ribtickler68 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    crock of ****!!!
     
  5. pecho26

    pecho26 ESB Lurker Full Member

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    Wake up.:lol:
     
  6. ribtickler68

    ribtickler68 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Exactly right. Some fights are debatable, but this one isn't!
     
  7. pecho26

    pecho26 ESB Lurker Full Member

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    As i said wake up and take your medicine.:lol::patsch
     
  8. kmac

    kmac On permanent vacation Full Member

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    i believe you're the guy that listed calzaghe as the greatest fighter of all-time. with that said, i have to agree with you that it did seem that joe took his foot off the gas in the last couple rounds vs jones.

    rocky would brutalize calzaghe. the fight goes as long as joe could take it. not a fair matchup to joe, obviously.
     
  9. Benitom3

    Benitom3 Boxing Junkie banned

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    Joe did carry him.yes
     
  10. Manu Vatuvei

    Manu Vatuvei Active Member Full Member

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    What did Calzaghe weigh in the ring?

    I think people still have trouble getting their heads around what "draining" means and how rehydration works.

    Marciano may have been as lean as possible at 185lbs but he was still fit, healthy and hydrated (obviously, given that was the weight he chose to fight at as a heavyweight and he didn't need to make weight).

    Like all fighters, he would still have been capable of losing water weight from his 185lb fighting weight, making some lower weight limit, then rehydrating back to a svelte 185lbs for the fight.

    There are 160lb and 168lb fighters who actually weigh a lean but hydrated 185lbs. Could Marciano have dehydrated to this extent? We don't know, because he never had to. We don't know how much water was in the man's body when he was healthy. I don't know why some people claim to know how much he was capable of dehydrating (as opposed to simply losing weight to get to his in-ring weight).

    Anyway, Calzaghe and Marciano would've been about the same size in the ring, which people don't seem to quite understand. Both would be 180-something.
     
  11. bremen

    bremen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :deal
     
  12. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    China is a troll. I don't even take him seriously in this thread. Let him keep trolling.
     
  13. Benitom3

    Benitom3 Boxing Junkie banned

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    Is China really a troll? In that case hes the only one who give Calzaghe much of a chance in his fight
     
  14. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He spews out stupid **** like saying, "Marciano couldn't KO a club fighter who weighed XYZ". That's cute and all, but how many times have AAA fighters been taken the distance by a no hoper? It happens all the time.

    He also said Joe could literally win the fight with one hand. That's a ****ing joke.
     
  15. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Marciano was stopped zero times. He was the one and only undisputed champion. He fought the best fighters available. 49-0 (43), if he ever fought Calzaghe he'd be 50-0 (44)