Joe Calzaghe vs Sergey Kovalev

Bernard Hopkins grab and punch-antic is quite effective, since it changes the distance from middle range to wrestle mode in a split second which is sure to confuse the opponent. More mobile American boxers, such as now retired Andre Ward, moves in and out constantly, so the other boxer never gets a chance to get a rhythm going.

I think Joe Calzaghes accomplishment in his fight against Hopkins was that he was able to adjust to Hopkins range switching tactic. He protected himself at all time and slapped his opponent at all distances. Hopkins was far from done at that point in his career and still had a few good victories ahead. But Calzaghe made him look clueless, albeit not looking to good himself in the process.

 

Calslappy couldn't punch and Kovalev can punch harder than anybody on slappys resume. I just can't see slappy winning this one, most likely Kovalev by KO or UD after dropping slappy a few times. This poll means nothing , because limeys will vote "slappy UD" even if slappy was in poll against Klitchko , remove british votes from the poll and you'll find that almost nobody ,but brits vote for slappy. Not long ago all limeys were voting for david haye to beat klitchko , hatton to beat manny and cleverly to beat kovalev.

 

I think its not appreciated how many fighters get a bit overawed when fighting away in a big/reasonable fight.
Froch was apparently a bit nervous against Taylor and consiquently was having a tough time and put down early. I think Bute was nervous when fighting away to Froch, even to the point that he was having crowd tapes played in training where apparently Frochs partner could be heard in them.

 

A post from an alt. I expect the votes wouldnt be completely fair the other way with Kovalev fighting out of America, but hey that wouldnt suit your arguement now, would it! I doubt many would pick Calzaghe to beat Klitschko either

 

yes indded sergey krush calslap inside the distance.

 

Wasn't hard to count the 40 or so punches Calzaghe landed in 12 rounds of boxing. lol

 

Just trash talk to hype a fight. No different than him saying, I will never lose to a country boy from Alabama, or Iowa. Or sayin I will never get dunked on by a white guy. A catholic school boy will never drop 30 on me. White boy is slang for White guy. White boy is part of American slang. Even used by some white folk. Not familiar with UK slang so maybe a few blokes took it the wrong way, or maybe its just white privaledge rearing its head, how dare this N!!!!! refer to Calzaghe as white boy...

 

True, or the 2 Hopkins landed over 12 rounds as one did score a flash KD

 

This discussion has taken place before complete with video ****ysis of the fight. You agree to disagree with reality. Thats fine.

 

The fight would NEVER happen and Zag’s greatest fans would have to acknowledge at least that much. Zags simply never fought guys in their prime, with the lone exception of the overhyped Lacy. Hop fought Joe on very even terms and Kov fought and dominated the same level fighter. Age was not a factor in the Kov fight and Hopkins admitted as much. Get real here people. Joe C was an exceptional fighter at 168 but he would get bludgeoned by Kov. It wouldn’t even be competitive.

 

Calazaghe wouldn't fight Kovalev. He always shied away from the most threatening opposition. If Hopkins was 37 when he bested Tarver and Wright, Calzaghe would have never fought him. Calzaghe was scared to face Dawson. No way he would have fought Kovalev.

 

Dont tell me. You watched an edited favourable video and then tried to site that as reality atsch.
I watched the fight and here is a little taster of some of the reality

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. I understand that Hopkins is an American legend that people want to see as an iconic figure. America love a reformist and Hopkins as a former armed robber turned world champ is just the story that wins Americas hearts but...

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1. Calzaghe landed more than 100 punches than Hopkins throughout the fight.
2. Contrary to what people want to believe, Calzaghe also made Hopkins miss more
3. All round punch percentages, Calzaghe finished ahead of Hopkins
4. Calzaghe outlanded Hopkins in every round
5. A Byrd. Type in Adalaide Byrd in Google and see what comes up for yourself, still here are some little things for you to look at
a. A Byrd was the only judge out of the 3 scoring judges that had Mack ahead against Cloud
b. The K Pavlik - A Lopez fight was scored 98-92, 99-91 by the other 2 judges, A Byrd scored it 95-95
c. A Byrd was one of the judges that had Morales a 4 point loser against Maidana
d. In the S Aydin vs S Ouali fight, the other 2 judges scored clearly for Aydin. Byrd scored for Ouali
e. The J Almaraz/C Tyler fight was scored a Maj-Dec all because of one judge, guess which? A Byrd
f. The A DeMarco/J Reyes fight was a SD. Guess who the odd judge out was? A Byrd.
g. The R Torres - M Arnaoutis fight was a close fight, a point either way to 2 judges but a wide result scored by Byrd
h. In the A Pryor Jr/D Stanislavjevic SD, guess who the odd judge out was? You guessed it... A Byrd
i. The W Ferguson/J Lopez SD, guess who the odd judge out was? You guessed it... A Byrd

I think thats enough for you to get the picture with Byrd. Remember the other 2 judges scored clearly for Calzaghe

6. Calzaghe beat Hopkins in America, at a new weight with 3 American judges and Cortez as ref.
7. Calzaghe scored the single highest score card against Hopkins ever 116-111 at that time.
8. The 2 judges that scored for Calzaghe agreed on 9 of the rounds
9. Calzaghe landed more on Hopkins than anyone ever.




Now I know there will be a flood of people coming on here noting Hopkins scoring a flash KD in the first round, and I agree that Hopkins did win a few rounds even when he didnt land as often, but people are mad if they think Calzaghe won on workrate, Calzaghe won because he was able to land his left more often than Hopkins could land his right.
Calzaghe finished the stronger and took away the moments Hopkins likes down the stretch.
Other thoughts, If Hopkins thought he was winning, do you think he would have been looking for time out and would bother trying to get points deducted off of Calzaghe, of course he wouldnt, Hopkins knew he was losing.

What I do note is that nobody seems to mind Hopkins lost to Taylor. In the first Hopkins/Taylor fight, Jermaine was badly hurt and Hopkins looked the stronger at the end, yet it seems to upset alot of these people that Calzaghe beat Hopkins. Appears very biased.

 

So Lacy, Kessler, Bika, Mitchell, Reid, Woodhall werent prime and thats just a few atsch

 

Why do you think Hopkins age to those wins makes a difference, he won exactly as he did, yet you are saying if he was younger, but had won the same the fight wouldnt have happened?
Yet it was Hopkins who backed out of fighting Calzaghe years previously.
Calzaghe beat Hopkins sandwiched between arguably his best wins of Tarver, Wright and Pavlik

 

According to C.J, Calzaghe didn't land ONE LEGITIMATE SCORING PUNCH.atsch


Delusional.:yep