Joe Calzaghe would be more likely to beat Samuel Peter than Sugar Ray Robinson

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  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Who do you have at one currently?


    I think movement would be the thing - add workrate in the early rounds.
     
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    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Do you favor Calzaghe over Robinson at 168 -questionmark-
     
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    Calzaghe would obviously get owned by both SRR and Peters. Peters would knock him out within 60 secs where SRR would probably UD him. This is a stupid hypothetical though because SRR is regarded by most as the best p4p of all time. Peters on the other hand is the heaviest puncher in the heavyweight division out weighing Calzaghe by app. 70 pounds.
     
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    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Being the best p4p doesn't neccesarily make a fighter a def to beat a heavier fighter, obviously.

    History is full of examples of very talented men stepping up to beat heavier men.
     
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    Again, though, you're missing what I said. Robinson is also a top 5 MIDDLEWEIGHT in addition to being a top 2 welterweight. He carried enough pop at MIDDLEWEIGHT to wipe out the top contenders in that division.

    Video evidence is clearly subjective--you see a crude caveman, most do not. But going on records? No contest here. Calzaghe faced barely any of the best supermiddleweights in his division, whereas Robinson faced and beat most of the best middleweights.
     
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    Calzaghe has faced best SMWs of his time though, just not Ottke, which would have been an inevitable Calzaghe win anyhow -fullstop-
     
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    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    clear your inbox please, mate.
     
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    I think what China_Hand_Joe is trying to say guys is that Calzaghe is probably the best SMW of all time, which is probably enough to see him through. SRR would clearly not be at his best at SMW where as Joe is clearly at his best at SMW.

    Something like that.
     
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    Answer the thread name, i dont think either could beat Samuel Peter at Heavyweight:lol:
     
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  10. McGrain

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    What is it about Peter particularly that makes him invulnerable to world class boxing, do you think?
     
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    Dont get wrong, Peter is a mediocure fighter at best. But i cant see either of them being effective at 200lbs. They both easily have the skill, if they could keep their speed in-particular.
     
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    Say Cal could go into a Peter fight at 185...what do you think then?
     
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    It has been documented for years how Calzaghe has to make alot of effort to make 168lbs, i imagine 185lbs would be close to a natural, comfortable weight for him. If this fight happened at that catchweight id take Calzaghe by a quite comfortable UD, he would outbox Peter with out a great deal of trouble along the way.
     
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  14. cross_trainer

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    Massive size, strength, and power advantages.
     
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    Ruiz - Jones?

    Turner - Burley?

    I bet you can think of plenty more...
     
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