Joe Calzaghe would be more likely to beat Samuel Peter than Sugar Ray Robinson

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  1. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Ruiz was not the puncher that Peter is, or is he quite as massive. I would give Peter a far better chance than Ruiz against Jones as well. The fact that Calzaghe's punches have little force on them would compound the issue.
     
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  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Calzaghe holds back a little on his punches to avoid risking a broken hand when he feels he is on top. Against Peter, he would have to comit to punches 100%. I think what is most likely is that he would break his hands and be stopped, but if he didn't, I think he would have enough pep in his shots to keep Peter of. Not that Peter catching him would neccesarily be a problem...

    Perhaps you are right about Peter having a better chance v the version of Jones that Ruiz fought.
     
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  3. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Calzaghe is also currently past 35 years of age. Of course, he didn't have the kind of wars that SRR did, either.
     
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  4. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Somewhat sad, isn't it? Even though technical boxing may have advanced slightly since SRR's time, and definitely advanced since Greb, the sheer experience difference between the old and new fighters is often staggering.
     
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  5. McGrain

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    Is that really true?
     
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  6. McGrain

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    Yeah, although he should have fought better fighters rather than more fighters.
     
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  7. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    :lol:

    No.

    The "he" is Calzaghe. I'm happy with the numbers, just unhappy with the quality.
     
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  8. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Basilio made his name against Robinson and nobody else in all seriousness, you can list other names on his resume but they are just guys that lost to the guy who gave Robinson a little trouble - fullstop- Byron Mitchell probably KOs Bastilo in the 4th -fullstop-
     
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  9. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Robinson did not face one opponent who could even trouble Calzaghe, not even on a P4P basis -fullstop-
     
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  10. McGrain

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    This is actually the stupidist thing you have ever said.

    Impressive.

    Calzaghe has failed to fight even one ATG. He's somehow missed out on Johnson, Jones, Hopkins, Ottke, Woods, Toney, if you wanted to infer that Calzaghe was protected or a coward it would not be difficult.
     
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  11. China_hand_Joe

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    A skilled coward is still skilled -fullstop-
     
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  12. enquirer

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    Calzaghe beats robbie at 168 and is knocked out or heavily outpointed by peter. Robbie or joe have no chance versus peter,especially robby...
    I dont see why you classic guys are overlooking calzaghe,he is better at 168 than robbie,especially when you consider todays 168 is like the 175 of yesterday with the day before weigh ins...Not many fighters retain their skills/power/effectiveness at three original divisions (of the original eight i mean.) And welter to middle to supermiddle/lt heavy is too much for robbie,especially againt one of the atgs at the weight....Maybe calzaghe doesnt have the best resume,but neither does jones at lt heavy or nard at middle. Yet with some fighters it the actual FOOTAGE and the style that makes them great,sometimes its not the fighters fault they couldnt secure the great matches....Nard,jones and PBF also havent fought all the best guys available to fight,neither did robbie.....
    Purely on styles,weight and footage calzaghe is better at todays 168 than robbie...
     
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