Joe Calzaghe's defense is not good enough to beat a prime Jones/Hopkins or a Toney

1.you said prime for prime,jones lights up calzaghe...BULL****,if either were gonna win,it would be a very tough fight...if jones were to win,it would be on points in a very close one(he ain't knocking calz out,TRUST ME)...and if calzaghe were to win,it would also be a tough one on points...though,i do think calzaghe has a great chance of stopping jones.

2.you said calzaghe wouldn't of kept up with jones by any stretch...again bull****..it would of been the other way round if anything.

3.you said,look at the problems that reid and kessler gave him...all fighters have problems with some of there opposition,thats a stupid thing to say.

4.you said,it's rediculous to say joe outworks anyone in there prime,when he bearly beat hopkins at the age of 43....i'm not even gonna answer to that ****,because it's ..well...REDICULOUS:deal

5.no it isn't me on the ps3..i don't have a computer.

 

I agree totally. To the guy who posted the rjj-calzaghe video yeah Jones still had speed, but his accuracy, balance and ability to not telegraph shots had left him. Prime Jones would take him out in under 3 rounds.

 

I think prime Jones vs. Calzaghe would have been a great fight. But I don't see how you think Calzaghe had a better chance of stopping Jones.

Jones had more power, and more speed with his feet. Hand speed was close but Jones had more power in his hands than Joe, their past knockouts prove this. Along with Jones carrying his power up in weight much better than Calzaghe did.

I too think It would have been a great fight, but fighters used to run away from Jones for Jones was content to potshot and cruise without taking risks...

It was the fighters that put pressure on prime Jones that usually got knocked out because Jones was forced to let his hands go... Not saying any of the fighters Jones knocked out were on the level of Calzaghe, but Calzaghe was not a great defensive fighter, and I believe Jones would have eventually caught him with something, which once was truly elite power.

I would say Jones by UD, but I don't think Calzaghe had any chance of stopping prime Jones, prime Jones had a chance of stopping Calzaghe due to style and elite punching power, something Joe never had, despite his score on an arcade game.

 

Whoops. Meant to say 37. But you got my point....apply your rationale evenly.

 

:good

I knew what you meant.

It is funny though Calzaghe supporters insist that Joe was 37 and Roy was 39, even though Roy's 40th birthday was a couple months before Calzaghe's 37th.

I have called a few of them on this, they never respond.

 

calzaghe had a better chance of stopping jones because,calzaghe had pretty good power and was willing to mix it up,unlike jones,who liked to keep his opponents on the outside...there is no way in hell that jones is as tough as calzaghe, or as good as adapting the way calzaghe could.

 

NO offense dude, Calzaghe was adaptable as you say, and a tough fighter in the ring, but he has never been in the ring with the types of fighters a prime Jones dominated. Don't know if you were watching back then(not meant as a slight), but Jones was truly a special fighter with skills that are rarely seen.

Joe might have given Jones a very tough fight, as he said, but it seemed, based on his own comments, even he knew he didn't have a great chance at winning during their primes.

 

That is totally speculation, sadly Jones was never pushed enough in his prime to make that statement known, despite dominating 2 near prime or prime ATG fighters. Though Jones showed amazing heart against Tarver when he had just cut 25 lbs, and totally weight drained to win back the LHW title in his very next fight, something only HOF fighters have done.

And yes, Calzaghe had OK power, but prime Jones' power was elite... Their punching power were on different levels. Also prime Jones was willing to mix it up when he was forced to, and when you combine that insane hand speed that Joe had but with the insane power in each hand, something Joe didn't have.

I agree it would be a good fight, but Jones had the better chance of stopping Calzaghe, and style wise, I think Jones would have been able to hit Calzaghe with some very hard punches, who was never great on defense..

 

So a young Roy would not keep up with a prime Joe ?Let me ask you then since its stupid to use some of Joe's previous fights as to gauge how he would do ,How does Roy in his prime not keep up with Joe ??

What are using as a reference? Their most current match up?

Please let me know then since my claims are bull **** and ridiculous ?


And Joe stopping Jones back then ? Who was catching Jones flush then ..I wonder how you came to this conclusion on a prime Jones ..:huhBut you want me to trust you ?`

Yet I say stupid **** ..And speaking of his power the man has 32 Ko's 24 Tko's who's he really stopping if the ref ain't jumping in to stop it ?

And who had the edge in power dept ?

 

So JC isnt affraid of fighting?
Go ask Jones what he thinks of this thread title ...

 

calzaghe was in the ring with a better hopkins than jones was:deal

cazaghe would of beat the **** out of the toney that got in the ring with jones(he struggled to make weight and looked like crap)

he had a even fight with griffin in the first.

so,who are all these types of fighters that jones dominated that calzaghe hasn't been in the ring with?

and to answer your question...yes,i've seen all of jones fights.

and forget what calzaghe once said in a news paper...because,under two years later,frank warren offered the fight to jones a few times...and jones turned them all down..it wasn't calzaghe's fault that jones didn't want to fight him...it was jones fault:deal

i respect your opinion,in that you think jones would of won...but i truly believe that calzaghe was the man to beat jones.

 

He was dropped by 2 shot forty year old fighters in the first round.


Everybody has been knocking out Roy Jones, he couldnt even do that.

 

You got a source on that?

 

two near prime or prime ATG fighters?

hopkins wasn't in his prime...and toney had weight problems when he fought jones...he also went on a big losing streak after as well.

jones didn't beat tarver in the first fight either...tarver was robbed:deal

and if jones was gonna hurt joe as bad as you say...why then,did he take all the flush shots that jones had to offer without even shaking?

 

its on youtube somewhere.