Joe Calzaghe's punches

Calzaghe could go back to his old power punching ways, but his hands are super brittle. Hence, his slappy-yet-effective style.

 

Yes. But Tarver and Johnson's legacies won't see them ranked higher than Calzaghe:hi:

 

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Originally Posted by PACFAN84
He would definitely go 0-3 against those three IMO. That's having nothing against Joe, he's a very good fighter, I just think those three are a higher class of boxer. Jones in particular would rout Calzaghe, that would be a mismatch. Jones's speed and skills would be far too much for Joe.


Question answered.

 

Tarver No Johnson Yes

 

Tarver & Johnson above Calzaghe ?

 

Oh, now I get it, it was the ineffectiveness of joe's punches that made Lacy look like he took second place in a chainsaw fight.

Same silly argument as "Leonard's punches did nothing to Hagler", yet Leonard did back Hagler up several times. Just because someone doesn't put all their power into single shots doesn't make fast combos ineffective. If Joe was ineffective, how come he can take over fights in which his opponents have the upper hand in the early rounds (Kessler, Hopkins)???

 

I hope that was a typo and you meant to say the opposite. Although i wouldn't rate Tarvers record above Joe's, the thought that Johnson would have a better legacy than Joe is nothing short of utter stupidity. Calzaghe may not have always fought the best but he certainly dominated B class fighters and never lost to one, which isn't true for Johnson. The guy is a warrior but he isn't fit to hold Calzaghe's jockstrap in terms of how he has performed in the ring for the entirety of his career.

 

As I pointed out the other week, Johnson has fought a greater percentage of his fights in Florida than Calzaghe has in Wales.

But no matter, lets take Johnson for a minute. Lets ignore the 12 losses, even though most people would consider that fairly relevant for a resume. Give us the wins on Johnson's resume that place him above Calzaghe. You got ko'ing Jones and then....that's it, right?

 

I love Glen Johnson, but there is no way he or Antonio Tarver deserve to be rated higher in the all-time pound-for-pound rankings than Joe Calzaghe. Calzaghe did duck Johnson, that's common knowledge, but he has still had a better career than either man.

 

And invariably loses! I like Johnson, but anyone who says he will be rated above Calzaghe historically is smoking something, take out the KO win over a past-it Jones and what have you got?

For what it's worth with those guys Jones>>>Toney>Hopkins>>Calzaghe>>>Tarver>>Johnson

 

Do you understand the meaning of the word "duck" in a boxing context? I'm genuinely curious because you seem to keep on and on misusing it. To "duck" a fighter is basically to refuse to entertain a reasonable offer to fight them because you are afraid of getting beat. To be forced to pull out because you have broken your hand or whatever is unfortunate, but ducking it ain;t!

 

If Calzaghe had fought Johnson in 2000 would you give him more respect than you do?

 

Nobody would have given him any more respect at that time because Johnson was like 4-6 at 168. I think people's liking for Johnson (I am quite a fan of his myself) due to his "road warrior" mentality tends to colour their views of his abilities. Sure he has had some decent wins (Griffin, Hall, Woods, Harding) at light heavy, but nobody would be talking about him as anything other than a decent world level fighter had it not been for the KO over Jones, the name rather than the fighter.

To give some examples

Calzaghe>>>>Sheika>>Johnson
Calzaghe>>Woodhall>>>Branco>>>Johnson
Calzaghe>>>>>>>>>>Lacy>>>Vanderpool>>Johnson
Calzaghe>>>Starie>>>Woods=Johnson
Calzaghe>Hopkins>>>>>>Johnson

I don't necessarily go in for all that one-off A beat B beat C **** in a style dependant sport like boxing, but when there are that many form lines I think it's easy to see when a fighter is not in another's class.

 

yet people think
Johnson >>>> Calzaghe.

calzaghe could be the best fighter to ever lace up gloves but we will never know due to the people who were in his devision when he was at his peak. You can only fight the people around you and if you are the champion why should you go around chasing people for fights they should be chasing you.
He has only lost 2 fights in his life and they were in amature and one of them was because the person who he was fightings dad was the ref.

 

dont like it....well lets see you stand in front of them then say they aint proper punches.
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