Joe Calzaghe's world famous WBO ducktionary - a career of ducking examined

Froch said he wanted to fight Calzaghe within a year, preparing the public and the Calzaghe for a beating he was going to give him. Joe Calzaghe did not want to get beating up by Froch so fought Kabery Salem and Evans Ashira instead.

 

I didnt say from start to finish. I said about Froch being outworked and if you watch that fight Froch was outworked for large part especially early on

 

How can an outworked fighter work the last 5 rounds to score a knockdown and have Adamu reeling back?

Your claim that Froch can get outworked is bull**** as Froch threw, and landed more punches than Adamu.

Either you aint watched the Adamu fight or you dont know what "outworked" means, regardless YDKSAB.

 

Maybe you did not follow boxing then or just followed boxrec, but this is the words of Carl Froch:-

"I'd like to fight Calzaghe,

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next year after a couple of fights for the British title,"

Froch was being smart by mentioning probably, but Calzaghe probably, naah, Calzaghe didnt want it.

Not only did Froch want to fight Calzaghe, and gave him a decent deadline, he was also confident in beating Calzaghe:-

"I know exactly what to do against his style, I'm really confident going in there that I'd look brilliant."

"That would be an outrageous win because Calzaghe's a good fighter,"

Froch talked about winning against Calzaghe while he was 13-0, while Calzaghe has talked about not fight the Cobra.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/3673602.stm

 

The facts are still facts, Froch was a better fight than Manfredo then, he is a better fighter now, and was a better fighter back in the amatuers. Froch was ranked higher than Manfredo by every respectable organisation. Truth.

 

Last one for now, give you a chance to hopefully produce a reasonable response:-

It is rare, almost unlikely for a fighter to improve physically past the age of 40, I am pretty sure that is what I also said on that different thread you are talking about. Mentally a fighter can get better with experience, and Johnson got better as he aged mentally.

Sheika beat Johnson while Johnson was on the worse form of his career:deal, while Froch beat Johnson while he was giving LHW champs tough fights, and just knocked out top 10 SMW Allan Green.

But I think you got it as you gave the thumbs up:thumbsup good to see you learning things quicker for a change.

 

:huh So you dont think someone can get outworked in a round and lose that round by being outworked?
Leave that belief with you

 

Which proves exactly what I said. Now concentrate and follow the words.
You say Froch was wanting to fight Calzaghe then print this statement
"I'd like to fight Calzaghe,

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next year after a couple of fights for the British title,"
Read the enlarged part, several times if required. That isnt Froch at 13-0 saying he wanted to fight Calzaghe then. He is saying down the line

 

Even though I agree Froch is better than Manfredo, You still try and cover the fact that Froch wouldnt give Calzaghe American exposure, which is what the idea of that fight was, and Froch hadnt even beaten someone like Pemberton at that time. Miss those fact? Seems you tried to cover over them again .
You also claim to know so much but miss the fact that Manfredo beat Froch as an amateur atsch. check out that fact also

 

So now you are back tracking and losing it completely .
If you read me giving you the thumbs up as learning, when you come out with

http://www.boxingforum24.com/showthread.php?p=14458184#post14458184


Then say someone who is boiled down and on a 0-5 in his last world title fights then boiled down and went 1-4 and who lost their next 3 after Froch, and you say they were at a high time

 

No

:deal

 

The Calzaghe-Manfredo fight was a terrible fight to make. A better fight would have been Calzaghe-Stieglitz who was the mandatory to Calzaghe's IBF belt. Unfortunately, Joe needed American exposure to build a fight with either Bernard Hopkins or Jermain Taylor, and Manfredo was a safe choice who was known in America. As much I respect Carl as a very good fighter, he's hands down better than Stieglitz and Manfredo without a doubt, he just wasn't in the picture at this time. I can only speculate (and I might well be wrong), but I really doubt HBO would have accepted him as an opponent either

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=2678031

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/6161430.stm


Like I say, it would have been a great fight, Carl wanted it bad, but it just wasn't viable at the time

 

Its a shame, Calzaghe had been a champ for almost 10 years and yet still needed American exposure. Even though RJJ, Tarver, Hopkins, Taylor, Toney and a few more known American fighters had mentioned Calzaghe's name, also Calzaghe had beaten Tyson 2nd coming Jeff Lacy in a brutal fashion, it is still a shame HBO had forced Calzaghe to beat up Manfredo.

 

it was not the not the workrate or the power it was both and the constant effective pressure

 

True, and it's Joe's own fault that he wasn't known in America at this point. He should have fought there years ago, Joe was too good to spend 10 years defending the WBO title in Britain.