Joe Calzaghe's world famous WBO ducktionary - a career of ducking examined

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  1. BlackBrenny

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    Pudwill was a late sub...
     
  2. KCD

    KCD All aboard. Full Member

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    This:deal

    Plus Johnson had no belt, had lost to Ottke and had lost to fighters top tier fighters should be beating. Mix in the fact that he couldn't fill a sports hall with his fans it makes one wonder how people can say Calzaghe ducked him. Oh and at 175 he had his life and death struggles with Clint 'the mint' Woods.
     
  3. ELECTRIC GURU

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    Howard Eastman would be just another eurobum on Calzaghe's resume . . . . . but Eastman is now some kind of sensation because he fought Bernard Hopkins :lol:

    Just like eurobum Jirov gets turned into some kind of boxing great because James Toney beat him :lol:

    Just like Clinton Woods is no eurobum because he lost to Roy Jones :rofl
     
  4. KCD

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    Tis' and its a damned shame.

    I know he's wasn't everyone's cup of tea and he was/is an arrogant SOB at times but the trolls in this thread are just ignoring actual facts to further their agenda.
     
  5. realsoulja

    realsoulja Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol::lol::lol::rofl:patsch

    We all know Calzaghe's resume is filled with bums.

    Calzaghe seemed keen to face a MW British champ, but when the SMW British champ wanted a fight Calzaghe started bricking it.
     
  6. realsoulja

    realsoulja Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Byron Mitchell, Brancko Sobot, Gimenez, Sheika, Brewer have losses in double digits yet Calzaghe fought them, but wanted no part of Glen Johnson.

    Joe Calzaghe has only fought 2 fighters that had a belt:-
    Mikkel Kessler (WBC, WBA) and Jeff Lacy (IBF). Other than these two every other fighter Calzaghe fought had no belt yet Calzaghe fought them, but wanted no part of Glen Johnson. (If you include Hopkins paper Ring belt at LHW thats up to you)

    Byron Mitchell, Charles Brewer, and Tocker Pudwill were Ottke's leftovers yet Calzaghe fought them, but still wanted no part of Glen Johnson.

    Gimenez, Thornberry, Starie, Sheika, McIntyre, Jimenez, Pudwill, Mkrtchyan, Kabery Salem, Bika, Manfredo lost to fighters top tier fighters should be beating, yet Calzaghe still fought them and wanted no part of Glen Johnson,

    But Tocker Pudwills fanbase in todays era would crash the twitter servers:lol:

    Its clearly visable as a sun during a summer sky noon, Calzaghe wanted no part of Glen Johnson.

    Its funny, you are trying to **** on Glen Johnson, but had Calzaghe beaten Johnson it would have been a top 5 win, which just goes to show how **** Calzaghe's resume is overall. The truth is, Calzaghe wanted no part of Glen Johnson at 168, or 175.

    BTW, Brewer went life and death struggle with Antwun Echols.
     
  7. KCD

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    Glen Johnson fought Ottke in 1999 losing a UD.

    In 2000 he went 1-4 losing to Vanderpool, Branco and Sheika (who then went on to be stopped by Calzaghe ). His lone win of the year coming against unproven Toks Owoh.

    In 01 he went 1-0 with a good victory over Thomas Ulrich.

    In 02 he went 0-1 losing to Harmon.

    In 03 he went 1-1-2 losing to Gonzalez, drawing with Judah, getting a good victory over Eric Harding to set up his title shot with Woods which was a draw.

    So from the end off 99 to the end of 2003 Glen Johnsons run of fights ran 3-6-2, hardly a list of champions. And whilst I agree Johnsons a lot better than the Pudwills of the era, Pudwill was a late replacement and he had gone the distance with Ottke.

    Now in 2004, Johnson had his break out year going 3-0 winning the title and beating Woods, Jones and Tarver. If there was ever a push for the fight it would be now.

    But 2005 starts with Johnson losing to Tarver then beating Khalid Jones.

    2006 starts Calzaghe gets his break through fight beating Lacy and Johnson again starts the year losing to Woods.

    Now I'm not saying Johnson was never worthy enough, but from 1999 to the beginning of 2006 he has only been remotely consistent in 2004, any other year and he's been losing to the type of fighters posters like yourself are calling Calzaghe for beating:bbb
     
  8. realsoulja

    realsoulja Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :deal
     
  9. Forza

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    johnson does nothing for calzaghe's resume.
     
  10. Mind Reader

    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    Exactly.. Joe Calzaghe knew Johnson would give him a hell of a fight... The risk was not worth the reward. Although, a fight with Johnson at LHW would have been more for Joe's resume that Roy Jones was..
     
  11. ELECTRIC GURU

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    Sorry, I had to stop reading there, my ears were welling up from all the laughter :lol:

    Glen Johnson was nothing but a punchbag in the tough 168 era :rofl
     
  12. Arcane

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    Eastman is a 'eurobum' but Tocker Pudwill and Mger Mkrtchyan are world beaters who only enhance Calzaghe's resume :rofl:rofl:lol:



    Story of Joe's career sadly.
     
  13. MAJR

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    No its not, because Calzaghe beat quite a few British Champions in his career.

    Starie was a British and Commonwealth Champion, Delaney was an Inter-Continental Champion, Ried was a WBC World Champion, Woodhall was a European and Commonwealth and WBC World Middleweight Champion and a WBC World Super Middleweight champion, and, of course, Eubank was a WBC International and WBO World Middleweight Champion and WBO World Super Middleweight Champion.

    Calzaghe fought his fair share of top British fighters in his division. You can't invalidate that just because he never fought Froch.
     
  14. realsoulja

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    He fights all these British champs, then calls out the British MW champ, but when the British SMW champ asks for a showdown he wants no part of him.
     
  15. Mind Reader

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    Records aside, I think Johnson and Calzaghe would have been a good fight based on their styles.. Just because Calzaghe beat fighters that beat Johnson means ****.

    I would also give LHW Johnson a decent chance in beating Joe there around 04-08.. Joe would likely win, but it would have been fun to see, Calzaghe would be in for a tough fight, with someone really hitting him back for 12 rounds.