Joe Calzaghe's world famous WBO ducktionary - a career of ducking examined

Quite honestly though the arguments of Calzaghe fanatics go so many different ways it makes me ****ing dizzy..

On one side, Roy wasn't shot, he got knocked out by Johnson because Roy stepped up to elite competition despite Johnson losing to previous Roy victims..

Then on the other, Johnson was not worthy of Calzaghe at any time, because Calzaghe beat fighters that beat Johnson...

All fighters have delusional fans, I think Calzaghe's are the worst at twisting logic to support Joe whenever they see fit...

It is funny though, they discredit fighters like Roy and Hopkins to the point where it should take away from Joe's wins over the old guys, then in the next argument praise Joe for the amazing feat..

You can't have your Calzaghe cake and eat it too.

 

The BBC article linked earlier in this thread about Calzaghe trying to get a fight with Middleweight Champion Eastman is dated April 2003 and the British Super Middleweight Champion in April 2003 was a man called Matthew Barney - and as far as I know Barney never called out Calzaghe - Froch had yet to win the title when Calzaghe was attempting to get Eastman.

Do you have evidence of Barney calling out Calzaghe?

 

Calzaghe wanted no part of Froch when he was the British SMW champ who was calling him out

Calzaghe called out Howard Eastman who was the British MW champ, whilst coming of a win against Tocker Pudwill.

The above are factual truths. I dont kbow why you want to discuss Barney for.

 

this literally made failey cry, you just crushed his dreams

 

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Well, it appeared to me that you were talking of one incident, because the only way I see the relevance of Calzaghe's attempts to fight Eastman to Froch calling Calzaghe out would be if it happened at the same time, but that's not the case.

Whether or not Calzaghe attempted to fight the British Middleweight Champion in 2003 - regardless of who he beat before doing so - has little bearing on what he was doing in 2006 or beyond, and has nothing whatsoever to do with however he dealt with Froch.

In fact, Calzaghe attempting to arrange a fight with Eastman has so little relevance to him deciding not to fight Froch that - if it was not your intention to criticise him for ignoring the British Super Middleweight Champion's challenge so that he could instead attempt to fight the champion from a lower division - I have to wonder why you brought it up in the first place.

 

Its because he is a Hopkins fanboy and the last thing he see's in his mind before he goes to sleep and the 1st thing he see's when he wakes up is the haunting figure of Joe Calzaghe. He knows thats where all roads lead to.

 

i dont know about ducking, but Johnson is a difficult proposition for anyone... and possibly outweighed reward for risk in Calzaghe's management, if they did have considered in fighting him.

You couldnt expect to stop Johnson, and you'd have to contend with his workrate - a pretty difficult proposition and a spoiler from time to time

 

Some boxers fight stiffs but Joe tried to fight an actual stiff during his padded SMW run.

His camp tried to get him a fight with Darrin Morris , a fighter who had been dead and buried for two years. As long as he wasn't top 10 ranked , they didn't care who the opponent was.

 

Can you show me a source where that fight was pursued?
I understand that somehow a fighter who had passed away got moved up the rankings, but can you show me where that fight was pursued

 

http://assets.espn.go.com/boxing/columns/graham/1097210.html

 

That doesnt say anything about the Calzaghe team trying to pursue that fight and just says what was already known about a fighter who had passed away somehow going up in ranking, but not about Calzaghes team wanting the fight

 

It makes some posters very insecure how so many roads lead to Calzaghe, but most of them do.