joe calzague couldnt lace roy jones boots in his prime

Benn was done by the time he fought Collins. To suggest that Collins beat anything like the Benn who fought Eubank/Barkley/G-Man would probably make Collins himself blush.

That being said, Collins might well have had the size, style and durability to have always given Benn a hard fight and possibly beat him.

 

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=...&q=benn shadow on his brain mcclellan&f=false


http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=...epage&q=benn lesion nigel mcclellan&f=false

 

And now he has

 

bailey,

You are completely missing the point.

Frank did not believe that Joe was injured.

Frank thought that Joe's bottle had gone.

Like I say, there must have been something in it.

Because Frank and Enzo would never have convinced him to fight, had they thought he was injured.

With regards to knowing what Enzo said, do some research.

He said he didn't care how big a fight was, or if it was the day of the fight, because if Joe was injured, he'd pull him out.

So why would Enzo and Frank have talked him into not backing out, if he wasn't fit?

Again, to my knowledge, Enzo and Joe have never disputed what Frank said.

Frank said he was the greatest fighter he worked with, but he had confidence issues.

 

I don't buy that Roy is a top 10 ATG. He didn't fight Eubank, Rocchigiani, Michalczewski, or Benn.

 

or Collins who he couldn't even look at or address when he called him out in the ring in his home city.

 

bailey,

What you write is comical.

Start a thread, and add a poll.

Was Benn faded when he fought Collins?

See how many votes you get in your favour.

I've quoted what Benn himself said :good

Fine, my mistake.

Not that it really matters.

So what?

It's just circumstances.

Camacho was the first to stop SRL.

It happens.

 

You write the same thing on every thread regarding Roy.

Anyone can pick their own top ten.

Everyone has different criteria.

Are you saying that Roy would have been a top ten guy, had he beaten all of the above?

Roy beat better fighters than those guys who he missed.

 

His only great wins are Hopkins, Toney, and Hill.

 

Yeah, and you would have given Roy a ton of credit had he beaten that version of Collins, right?

You guys are hilarious!

You all do the same thing.

You criticise his resume, and question why he didn't fight certain guys, without knowing any facts, and not realising that Roy fought better guys than the ones he missed.

When Collins got into the ring with Roy, he'd been out of action for a while, he wasn't ranked at LHW, and he brought nothing to the table.

Roy dismissed him, and then he fought Reggie Johnson in his next fight to unify.

Again, had Roy not fought Johnson and fought Collins and beaten him, then you and all of the other fools on here, would have ripped Roy for it.

I know it, you know it, and everyone else knows it.

 

It's no good debating with me, if those are you thoughts.

Because we're on different levels.

If you truly believe what you've wrote, then go and educate yourself.


Now tell me why you keep mentioning the names that you always mention?

If you don't rate Roy's wins over Ruiz, Griffin and Tarver etc.....

Then why do you give a F*CK that he didn't fight Roch etc?


Why do you care?

Because if he had've beaten all the guys you've mentioned, we all know you wouldn't have given him credit.

We can all see that with what you constantly write.

Let's not kid ourselves that if Roy had beaten Roch, that you'd be on here now, listing it as one of his best wins.

 

What were Griffin's best wins?

Don't try to tell me Julio Cesar Gonzalez, Reggie Johnson, Eric Harding, and Lou De Valle are good wins.

 

Seriously, what's the point?


Again, if Roy had've beaten Roch and Collins etc, you'd still be on here today, complaining.

You'd never be satisfied.

Go and look at Benn's resume.

Then look at Eubank's, Collins's and Roch's etc.

Then look at DM's resume.


Roy's resume is superior.


Now when you've worked that out, you can also look at who Roy beat, and in what manner, and look at what they'd done prior to fighting Roy, and then what they went on to do after.

 

jones weeks from 40something, hops 42+

haha failey again, where is all these ducks you always claim? no wonder you are called Failey.