Joe Calzahge VS Jake Lamotta at Super Middle

Out of interest why is Lamotta a warrior and calzaghe not?
Lamotta has taken some bombs and big punishment in fights and joe has not taken nearly as much is this why you say he is not a warrior?

 

well lamotta proved he was a warrior in the SRR fights where he got a W over arguably the best fighter ever and survived brutal beatings

calzaghe had a tough fight with a legitimate contender-mikkel kessler-hardly the same thing and calzaghe was still throwing un warrior like slaps in tha fight

oh and the fact that calzaghe hasn't taken nearly as much punishment as lamotta is just a little related to the number of fights and quality of opposition. i mean calzaghe has faced only a handful of legit contenders: reid, eubank, hopkins, kessler, and lacy (and he really only dominated against lacy )

 

LaMotta went toe to toe with some of the roughest and toughest middle and light heavies of his era. He would smother Calzaghe with his bully style while taking some heavy punishment along the way.

I'm gonna go with LaMotta by close UD.

 

So La Motta who has one of the best chins in the history of the sport would be knocked out by Joe Calzaghe. :-(

 

What exactly are you basing this on?


The more I think about it the more ridiculous it seems.

 

LaMotta had five fights with the greatest P4P fighter the world has ever seen. All anyone seems to remember of those fights are the last few rounds of the final fight where SRR beat LaMotta up. They don't seem to remember that Lamotta won the first fight, lost close decisions in the next three and was very competitive in the last fight until the final rounds where he took a beating. The 4th fight between them was a SD win for SRR and was hotly disputed.

There is a reason why they fought 5 times, pretty obvious really, because Lamotta was competitive with SRR.

So Calzaghe would easily outbox a fighter that the number one P4P fighter of all time had major problems outboxing. It took him 5 fights to finally solve the LaMotta puzzle.

Seriously get real. Either SRR wasn't that good of a boxer or Lamotta was way better than most people on this thread give him credit for.

Which one is it?

 

Lamotta is seriously underrated and is in my top10 p4p, not a single fighter in history has better 'intanglebles' than lamotta and he would be a wrecking ball coming calzaghes way with no respect for anything he can do and just put a beating on him for 15 rounds

 

Calzaghe is not better than Robinson, but there are two things that would mean generally he would favour better against La Motta:

1. Styles make fights, and Calzaghe fairs well against come forward fighters, particularly if they can be hit.

2. Calzaghe is simply much bigger than Robinson, not better at all. Therefore this would negate Jakes, physical strength advtangas's which he had over Ray, for the most part.

 

I would bet that Robinson hit harder than calzaghe even if calzaghe was bigger, also Lamotta would still be stronger than Calzaghe but thats just my opinion