Joe Cortez did a good and consistent job with Mayweather Hatton. [Video Proof]

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  1. abujafar

    abujafar Active Member Full Member

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    He only stopped the fight when there was holding or interlocking of arms and when one fighters head under the others arm.

    See 8:45, 8:53 and 9:19 for when the fight was stopped due to holding

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uACoHbaB61c[/ame]

    In beginning of this next video, Cortez allows inside fighting. Ricky listens when Cortez tells him no holding, but cortez eventually stops it because of Floyds elbow.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3bMiY2vKRY[/ame]

    Of course he made a couple of unnecessary stops but he is human.:deal

    The majority of stops in this fighters were due to: Holding of arms, Holding heads, Floyds elbows, Hitting behind the head.

    The problem is that ricky is most effective when fighting dirty and he wasn't able to do that in this fight.

    Look at 4:39 and 4:55 when Cortez stops the fighting because of holding hands and Corrales holding Castillo's head. Other than the holding he allows them to fight.
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ue4LAW217pw[/ame]

    discuss please.:bbb
     
  2. doylexxx

    doylexxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    UK tv were crying cause hatton wasnt allowed his usual hold and hit they had hatton winning rounds when he was timed coming in again and again

    terrible crying
     
  3. rayrobinson

    rayrobinson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Cortez - ' come on Floyd more elbow, ill let you do it'
     
  4. abujafar

    abujafar Active Member Full Member

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    This is basically what it boils down to.
     
  5. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    You know, I thought I was the only one who thought Cortez did what was necessary in that fight. The spoiling on the inside needed to be dealt with, else it would have been an ugly, boring affair with **** loads of holding and not enough punching. Floyd was out-Rickying Ricky.
     
  6. rayrobinson

    rayrobinson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hopkins holds - its old school

    Hatton holds - its dirty fighting.

    You cannot have it both ways boys.

    Please dont try and justify Hopkins method - Right hand - Head butt - Hold.
     
  7. abujafar

    abujafar Active Member Full Member

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    Everyone knows hopkins is a dirty fighter and anytime a referee stops him that referee deserves credit.
     
  8. BoxingFanNo1

    BoxingFanNo1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Did he ****.

    I'm at work, could someone show this fool the 2 part video on YouTube with the amount of fouling Mayweather got away with.
     
  9. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    This guy is mad the ref followed the rules and stopped the holding.
     
  10. rayrobinson

    rayrobinson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You have me wrong my friend , I look at the fight and see only one fighter being penalised when it is clearly Floyd do the nasty.

    Hatton gets a point deducted for punching Floyd who has turned his back??? So we stop every time Floyd turns away?
     
  11. sugarngold

    sugarngold RIDDUM Full Member

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    If you're the ref in the ring then you can make that decision - otherwise only Steven Tucker can make that call.
     
  12. abujafar

    abujafar Active Member Full Member

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    I saw that video. It will only convince a fanboy and not a boxing fan.

    I did not say Cortez was perfect. There were times when they both got away with fouling. There were times when they both got warned.

    While I disagree with Cortez taking a point because of what you stated, Cortez was in the middle of reffing a match without the benefit of youtube videos. Hitting behind the head can be dangerous so Cortez did what he thought was necessary.

    While disagreeing with a ref makes for good conversation, seeing a fighter get seriously hurt because a ref was lackadaisical is even worse.:good
     
  13. Outboxer

    Outboxer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not from what I recall. I watched the Sky Sports version and the HBO version, and it seemed like the HBO guys were actually criticising Floyd more and were more impressed with Hatton's performance. I think they even gave Hatton more rounds, although I'll have to double check. While the HBO guys were talking about how Floyd was uncomfortable and troubled by Hatton's footspeed and aggression, the Sky Sports team were saying stuff like 'Mayweather's jab is artistry'.

    It's true that they were also complaining about Cortez, but I think the complaining was completely warranted. Cortez wasn't terrible, but he was quite bad at points and seemed a little biased against Hatton. The point deduction was silly, and he wasn't doing anything about Floyd continually sticking his forearm and elbow into Hatton's head.
     
  14. COLD-HARD-TRUTH

    COLD-HARD-TRUTH Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Cortez invlolves himself too much in the fights he officiates. I find him to be very obnoxious to watch. I like Steve Smoger... he let's guys fight. Than again, Floyd wants Cortez because he let's him get away with sticking his elbows in his opponent's throat.
     
  15. Cableaddict

    Cableaddict Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Floyd did the vast majority of the holding. That's incredibly obvious. -And many times Cortez jumped in was too fast, stopping Hatton from throwing body shots before any real holding even happened.

    Additionally, you could just "feel" Cortez looking for every excuse to admonish Hatton.

    Now, Ricky was definitely guilty of hitting behind the head, and more than once, but Cortez was not stopping him for that. It's like Cortez wasn't really watching the fight. Clearly, he had a plan / agenda before the fight even started.