Joe Cortez is a bad referee

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by thunder06, Jan 7, 2008.


  1. 2FasT

    2FasT Member Full Member

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    He didn't enforce the rules though there were more elbows in that fight that a muay thai bout.
    All he did was stop hatton fighting his style and let floyd do what the **** he likes thus he did a shitty job and influenced the fight in favour of one fighter.
     
  2. PhillyShell

    PhillyShell Active Member Full Member

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    not just more elbows than a muay tai fight, more knees to the face too. it's a good thing that the fight ended in the tenth, because floyd was clearly about to start kicking. but yeah, that's all he did, sabotage hatton. you know i hear, after the fight, he pissed on a flag of britain. man that joe cortez is biased.
     
  3. sambob

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    His grappling style?

    This is BOXING.

    In BOXING, grappling is not a style. It is a LACK of style. GRAPPLING is part of WRESTLING, not BOXING.

    Two different sports. Cortez did his job.

    Did Cortez influence the fight? You bet your ass he did, its his job to keep fighters from hurting each other, and to enforce the rules.

    And who the **** cares who was holding? Cortez warned Floyd for holding just like he warned Hatton. You can't just break one fighter in a clinch, that doesn't make much sense. You break them both up, and both start again from the outside.

    To say that Cortez was in PBF's pocket is RIDICULOUS. Cortez has never shown any kind of preference to Floyd before. He was on Floyd's ass just as much as he was on Hattons. He has even taken points from Floyd in the past! In the Hatton fight the only difference was that Floyd didn't give him enough reason to take points. Hatton gave him enough points. He very flagrantly did something that Cortez had already told him not to do. Did the punch connect? Not really. Did Floyd turn his back a bit?? Not exactly. Floyd's defensive style has him fighting at an angle so that if he's getting MAULED into the ropes like Hatton loves to do, its easy for him to get turned around.

    See this is COMPLETE bull****.

    On one hand you say "Cortez was breaking them up the SECOND they got into a clinch!", then you say "Floyd was clinchin excessively to try to tire out Hatton!"

    If they were bein broken up the second they got into a clinch, how could Floyd have used it to his advantage to win the fight?

    Floyd fought a rough fight, and Hatton couldn't handle it. Boo hoo hoo, Hatton got some of his own medicine. Well get over it.
     
  4. 2FasT

    2FasT Member Full Member

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    Get over what i'm not a hatton fan floyds gameplan was to initiate the grappling and have cortez break it up under instructions to do so because of hattons known hit and hold style and waste 4 - 5 rounds by doing that.
     
  5. o_money

    o_money Boxing Junkie banned

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    I think cortez shouldn't br allowed to ref a fight of this magnituted again. he clearly let the pressure get to him.
     
  6. PhillyShell

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    wow man, that's some pretty damn insightful stuff. you clearly know what floyd is going to do before he does it. and the nonbias? just oozes out of you.
     
  7. Thread Stealer

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    Cortez has been a lousy ref for awhile. It's funny how it took Mayweather-Hatton for people to realize it.

    He was worse when he almost let Paul Williams kill poor Santos Pakau, or Ike Quartey almost kill Carlos Bojorquez, or how he bent over backwards to accomodate B-Hop in the 3rd Robert Allen fight after Bernard's threats to pull out.
     
  8. 2FasT

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    Oh ok then lets watch cortez referee hopkins and see what happens.Lets see if he stops popkins holding and spoiling tactics we shall see come april shant we.
     
  9. PhillyShell

    PhillyShell Active Member Full Member

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    it's not like if he does so you'll come online immediately and recant. because you'll know doubt find some way that cortez made life difficult for slappy joe. who, by the way, like hatton, is a contender for goat.
     
  10. Sweet Pea Pacquiao

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    Cortez is an awful referee. Firm but fair my ass.
     
  11. cardstars

    cardstars Gamboa is GOD Full Member

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    I agree he did too much, but I highly doubt he felt "pressured" or nervous to do a good job. He's had bigger fights than this before
     
  12. eliqueiros

    eliqueiros Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I know you can't post up links and so I don't expect an answer but where the hell are y'all rewatching this fight? I have yet to rewatch the whole thing since the night of the fight. Anyway, I knew Hatton was gonna loose the moment he set foot in USA. Not letting Hatton do his thing, that's like saying to Mayweather that he can't fight going backward. Hatton's only chance was the hitting and holding. That's it, the guy had no other chance. I think it should have been fair to let him fight the only way he could have. There is no law against "clinching." Mayweather is just to good to put limits on his opponents.
     
  13. RealIzm

    RealIzm Boxing Junkie banned

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    Awww sounds like a Hatton fan upset because his fighter was exposed for his lack of intelligence and boxing ability...you do know this is boxing not wrestling right?? It was long over due..Collazo was robbed and wrote the book on how to beat a wrestler in a boxing match..Do your research and go watch WWE...by comparison Steve Smoger would'nt have allowed all the wrestling and **** either...so get over it your hero is a wrestler
     
  14. The Sarge

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    The refs job is also to tell a fighter to stop turning his back on his opponent and also to stop ducking below the belt line and stop pushing your elbow into your opponents face, (all illegal moves) howver he failed to do any of these. oh hang on he warned PBF once in the 2nd round for the elbows but thats it
     
  15. PATSYS

    PATSYS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So what's wrong with that?

    I think joe Cortez did a good job in that fight and generally speaking, Cortez along with Steve Smoger and Frank Capuccino are the 3 best boxing refs in the sport today.